Question about the gameplay!?

[Lightweight!]

Since there are still several unanswered and undiscovered cases/things about wc3, i will open a thread to allow you to post your thoughts about them.

I will collect the questions in the first post and also add the answers to it.

Let us start with the questions:

1. Lightweight: A huntress with the owl upgrade uses the owl on a tree. A Dark Ranger charms that huntress. Does the huntress have another owl now?

2. Persuade: What if you devour an mountain-giant with a kodo, then research resistant skin while hes in the belly, then charm the kodo afterwards?

3. Persuade: If you charm a shackled air unit, does it break shackle?

4. Lightweight: What happens if a raider with the pillage reinforcement will hit a nightelf tree without finishing it off, while the tree will eat trees to regenerate hitpoints. Is this a way to get infinitely ressources (at least until there is no more trees on the map?).
Answer: Yes, it works.

5. Persuade: Can Lightweight win without manip?
Answer: I don't know, i didn't try, yet.

6: Persuade: Does demolish (passive skill, ultimate) do 3 1/2 damage to pocket factory as to normal buildings?

7. Persuade: Can you hex, cyclone, ensnare burrowed fiends?
Answer: I know that ensnare doesn't work (tried). Same with cyclone. I don't know about hex.

8. Persuade: Can you steal moonjuice from moonwells with a wand of mana stealing?
Answer: Yes, you can.

9. Lightweight: If you can steal moonjuice from moonwells with a WOMS, how much juice will the moonwell lose from it? (Mana/HP ratio on moonwells is 1/4. 100 mana moonwell, will regenerate 25 mana/100 hp to your hero.)


Feel free to create new questions or to answer the given ones 

 

[Persuade]

ive won a ffa because of number 4.

was twisted meadows and 3 way with no goldmines, and a NE was cornered on island with level 10 dr/alch/kotg and mass chippo/tower.

Me and the elf had to work together and did this for like 25 minutes to get enough gold to win.

[Persuade]

add these.

5.  Can LW win without manip?
 
6.  Does tinker robo attack do 3x dmg to pocket factory?

7.  Can you cyclone/hex/ensnare burrowed units?

8.  If you cast polymorph or cyclone or a similar spell on a mountain giant without res skin, does the duration lessen if research is finished when the spell is active?

[FML|Renaud]

if you cyclone a doomed unit, will it go back to normal?

[MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMK]

known issues:

you can not give AMS to a destroyer, but if you AMS the statue first and morph later, you have an AMS'ed destroyer anyway...

bats do PHYSICAL damage and AMS stops MAGICAL damage, but AMS blocks off the damage from bats anyway while theoretically it shouldn't (however, its better for balance reasons though)

differences between banshee's AMS and night elf anti magic potion:
banshees AMS blocks some magic damage but does not provide magic immunity and it's not dispellable,
anti magic potion provides complete magic immunity but it 's dispellable
so i think it would be better if the graphics of both AMS are different too because now it's confusing for new players

you can not purge destroyers or dryads so the purge side-effect from the lightning orb should not purge either

[Persuade]

awesome things


- you can purge invulnerable heroes, but not the paladin with divine shield on
- you can steal mana from moonwells with your wand of mana stealing

[FML|Renaud]

din't know you could still mana from mw!
does it work with bloodmage siphon?

[Persuade]

din't know you could still mana from mw!
does it work with bloodmage siphon?

try it out and let us know

[FML|Renaud]

siphon doesn't work :(
but I confirm that mana wand does work

[Persuade]

siphon doesn't work :(
but I confirm that mana wand does work

exact number?

do it on casters, heroes, and moonwell.  then do it again with banish

[FML|Renaud]

it was about 20 000 go-do-it-yourself

[FML|Mage]

it was about 20 000 go-do-it-yourself

Ahahaha.  Renaud wins.

[Pinballmap]

7.  Can you cyclone/hex/ensnare burrowed units?

pretty sure: No.

[Persuade]

BOTH OF YOU ARE JERKS

[ATiBright]

bats do PHYSICAL damage and AMS stops MAGICAL damage, but AMS blocks off the damage from bats anyway while theoretically it shouldn't (however, its better for balance reasons though)

You're incorrect on this one.  AMS does not block the damage from bats, it blocks the SPLASH damage in the area from bats.  The initial explosion damage single unit target takes full damage from the bat.