Need confirmation from mods on "feeding"

[Persuade]

i would assume it would only be acceptable under a very rare occurrence.

Here's a hypothetical situation.

Savage storm, map is MINED OUT.  No one has any gold.  Wreck is cornered up with mass towers and one hero, me and renaud both have 1 hero left, however renaud has no item or ways to get a zepp, and wreck has no ways to get down.  Lets say I need renaud to help kill wreck, and renaud needs me to supply him with gold, so I give him 240 gold worth of items, for a zepp, then we proceed from there.

[rygorych]

OK, well I'll just go by precedents set before to be safe and be sure to make it clear that I'm just manipping everyone into helping me win. 

[Kruppe]

If Kruppe does not know what is going on - is he allowed to use maphack?

Only to save some units, that will make Kruppe's plans succeed. Not directly, but it is part of my plans to make other players making decisions to my benefit.

Really, how much deeper can you get.

[Wrecktify]

i would assume it would only be acceptable under a very rare occurrence.

Here's a hypothetical situation.

Savage storm, map is MINED OUT.  No one has any gold.  Wreck is cornered up with mass towers and one hero, me and renaud both have 1 hero left, however renaud has no item or ways to get a zepp, and wreck has no ways to get down.  Lets say I need renaud to help kill wreck, and renaud needs me to supply him with gold, so I give him 240 gold worth of items, for a zepp, then we proceed from there.

banned for preteam.

[rygorych]

If Kruppe does not know what is going on - is he allowed to use maphack?

Only to save some units, that will make Kruppe's plans succeed. Not directly, but it is part of my plans to make other players making decisions to my benefit.

Really, how much deeper can you get.

Son, are you on any kind of medication? Or trying to be funny?

[Kruppe]

If Kruppe does not know what is going on - is he allowed to use maphack?

Only to save some units, that will make Kruppe's plans succeed. Not directly, but it is part of my plans to make other players making decisions to my benefit.

Really, how much deeper can you get.

Son, are you on any kind of medication? Or trying to be funny?

Do by no means call me "Son", person.

I do not write what I  think of you.

Stop.

Now.

[Ugri2]

sounds weird to me

[FML|WorpeX]

lemme put it this way.

Don't item feed.

thanks!

[rygorych]

So even if I'm giving someone else an item in order to win the game, it's still considered feeding? New rule? It`s pretty clear what it says right now:

Feeding can be considered as a player with no chance of winning a game giving either Items or large amounts of Experience to any other player in the game in hopes to give that player a better chance at winning.

It's no problem, and I hope I'm not being a pain in the ass about this, I just want to be clear what I can or can't do so there are no misunderstandings.

[FML|WorpeX]

you miss key words which make it ambiguous.

Feeding can be considered as a player with no chance of winning a game giving either Items or large amounts of Experience to any other player in the game in hopes to give that player a better chance at winning.

"Can" as in, this is only an example and not the only circumstance. The rest of the rule is very clear though, you know, the part that you LEFT OUT.

Feeding is not allowed in the FML league.

[rygorych]

I see.... so is there really a point to this rule? Why not just state, "you cannot drop items to be picked up by other players"?

In other words, what's the reason for the ambiguity? Here in this thread you basically make it very clear:
http://ffamasters.com/league/index.php?topic=504.0

    To me, the illegal feeding is only when someone is dead with no chance of winning, and they feed their units/items to someone out of spite.


You are correct sir!

And now you're basically stating the opposite.

Damn you Worpex, damn you.

First you play a game without using Crypt Lord, now this?

[FML|WorpeX]

The reason for the ambiguity is because its a gray area. Some types of feeding is perfectly acceptable, some is not. In your circumstance, you've refrained from stating what your actual plan is. You've merely said, "I will feed but do it in a way that it'll help me win." I don't know what the fuck that means so i'm just going to say don't do it. :D

I still think that the illegal feeding is when someone is dead with no chance of winning and they feed their units/items to someone out of spite. However, I am only 1 of 3.5 admins on the team and we've always gone by majority rules. What is their stance? I have no idea. Thus, I tell you not to do it at all.

[Ugri2]

who is the 0.5 admin, Killin? :D :D

I think it can happen sometimes in game that it is helpfull under some circumstances, but planning from start sounds at worst as preteaming, at best as goofy manipulation in a crappy game to be

[Persuade]

who is the 0.5 admin, Killin? :D :D

I think it can happen sometimes in game that it is helpfull under some circumstances, but planning from start sounds at worst as preteaming, at best as goofy manipulation in a crappy game to be

No, Ugris greatness is that of 1.5.

Killin retired so it's pex/renaud/pinball that are .6667 each

[FML|WorpeX]

yeah, killin is the .5. O_O Renaud, Pinballmap and I are the others. lol