Season 12 map pool voting!

[FML|WorpeX]

The following maps will be in Season 12 automatically: Gold Rush, Deadlock, Twilight Ruins, Market Square, Silverpine Forest.

However.... Lets decide on what to change up for the next season! Vote for your favorite 3 maps in the pool!

Here are the choices:

DeathRose
:DeathRose2:

Crucible (Taverns)
:Crucible2:

Harvest of Sorrow
:Harvest2:

Monsoon
:Monsoon2:

Rock Quarry
:Rock_Quarry_2: 

Roundabout
:Roundabout2:

Savage Storm
:savage2jw4:

Thunder Lake (Taverns)
:Thunder2:

Lost Temple
:LostTemple2:

Spider Falls
:spiderfalls74:

(No pics)

Battleground
Emerald Shore
Copper Canyon
Bloodstone Mesa

[Pinballmap]

Voted for:

Spider Falls
Lost Temple ( i know its a 1vs1/2vs2 map but it will make alot of fun, and the games will be pretty short)
Bloodstone Mesa

[rygorych]

Voted Crucible, Savage Storm(assuming corners are de-elevated) and Rock Quarry.

I don't know why the hell would you vote for small 1v1 or 2v2 maps. They do not make for good FFA games.

Macro as a skill shines on large or complex maps, not the tiny ones. I expect you imagine it's fun, when someone rushes early... it's not. Look at what happened to LW in Semi. He got unlucky starting pos and ZERO chance of doing anything at all. One of the best players in FML taken out within minutes of match's start with absolutely no way to avoid it.

Is that fun?

[L77]

Harvest, Crucible, and Deathrose

Don't like smaller maps, but Deathrose is less flawed than the other options.  Rock Quarry, Emerald Shores, and Monsoon rely heavily on spawn positions/position luck.  Savage Storm is ok, harder creeps, but the corner islands really favor human (same with Lost Temple).  Spider Falls heavily favors elf with chim harasses.  Battleground is similar to Mur'gul Oasis, where expansions are few and it's difficult to even get your first up sometimes.  I don't know Copper Canyon or Bloodstone Mesa without pics, so can't judge those.

[rygorych]

Deathrose is boring and predictable :/

I'm not sure why you'd say RQ is spawn luck. It's a huge map with lots of opportunity to break out and rebuild.

Savage Storm is no good if the corners stay, that's why I asked Worp  to de-elevate them or remove them like he did with Harvest per popular demand.

I like Monsoon as well just because it has a certain style to it which is nice for a change (as opposed to all land maps), but I didn't vote for it because other 3 are better.

Battlegrounds, Copper and Mesa are ladder trash and would not make for good, serious league games.

[Wrecktify]

Which one is battleground?  That name sounds familiar ?:(

Voted Harvest - Death Rose - Thunder Lake

[FML|Renaud]

Vote Harvest, Crucible Thunder Lake

Battleground is a snow map, 8 start pos and 4 mid expo, i think it's currently a 4s map, but it used to be in the ffa map pool (at least in RoC it was/is)

[rygorych]

Need support for Rock Quarry! Amazing map with tons of creeps.

[FML|Renaud]

It's a horrible map!  Perfect for *Gasp* Cookie cutter (or cheese if you prefer!)
Horrible to face mass tp,
Orcs can buy +15 Claws and MoD

[rygorych]

Any big map is bad for Mass TP. Helllooo, puss HU are op, news at 11?

I didn't know about market place abuse on RQ, does it even have a marketplace?

[Q-veta]

Voted for Harvest of Sorrow (although Worpex probably rigged the votes on that one), Rock Quarry and Savage Storm. Oh sure they're not the best maps (especially Harvest of Sorrow) but I'd like to play some maps in FFA that I haven't been constantly playing since 2006.

[rygorych]

I'd like to play some maps in FFA that I haven't been constantly playing since 2006.

This.

[FML|WorpeX]

Yeah, I agree with playing on some newer maps! This is why I (finally) took Deathrose out of the pool and kept Gold Rush in. GR was very popular last season and DR has pretty much always been one of the least favorites. Only reason it was in the pool was because of fair spawn positions.

I voted Harvest, Crucible and Lost Temple. LT isn't the best FFA map, no, but it encourages fighting and short games which makes it different from every other map in the pool. I like variety and I think it could prove to be fun.

As for modifying maps, I only modified Harvest because it's my own map. I don't mind adding in a neutral shop or changing spawn positions on a blizzard map, but I don't plan on changing the gameplay dynamics of any maps beyond that. The terrain will stay the same.

[L77]

Need support for Rock Quarry! Amazing map with tons of creeps.

At first I was all for Rock Quarry, but then I remembered some of the problems with it while it was a ladder map.  If someone gets spawn luck, he's so far away from everyone else that he'll likely not be bothered to a larger extent than any other map on the list.  I also think there's a dragon shop in the middle, no thanks to a magic immune, flying, chaos damage type unit in ffa.

But, for the maps that I didn't choose, Rock Quarry is still at the top (somewhere between #3 and #4 with Deathrose). 

[rygorych]

As for modifying maps, I only modified Harvest because it's my own map. I don't mind adding in a neutral shop or changing spawn positions on a blizzard map, but I don't plan on changing the gameplay dynamics of any maps beyond that. The terrain will stay the same.

Meh, screw it Savage Storm with turtle corners is fine. Amazing freaking map.