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RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« on: June 10, 2013, 08:10:07 pm »
Hi all,
I wanted to try my hand at video analysis of games and I've decided to start a recurring round review cast the Monday after each round ends, discussing various elements of FFA and examples of them found in the round.  I intend to try to focus mostly on learning than on critiquing and want to pick a specific topic to zero in on each week.  I will include links to the casts in this thread and welcome your feedback on my analysis, please!

RRR official subsection of the FML YouTube Channel can be found here!

RRR # 1 - Redkeekee's Round Review of Season 16 Round 1: Why did I get 5 points?
Episode 1
Redkeekee breaks down the 4th place finishes of round one - discussing what we can learn from our first-eliminated competitors and how they could have or could not have avoided their fate.

RRR # 2 - Redkeekee's Round Review of Season 16 Round 2: In Depth Analysis
Episode 2
Redkeekee breaks down the decision making and gameplay of all players in the league during round 2.  In depth discussion surrounding positions, correct teaming, gold management and more.

RRR #3 - To chat or not to chat... that is the question!
Episode 3
The mighty Renaud joins Redkeekee in discussion surrounding examples of chat and their effectiveness in the third round, along with some general comments on chat in FFA.

RRR Special #1: Talk-back with Magadansky on UD vs Tanks
Special 1
Redkeekee discusses the specific challenges of fighting human armies and tanks in particular as the undead race, and some tips and tricks on how to defeat them.
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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2013, 08:22:25 pm »
You sounded like a dying animal
I request and apology

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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 08:25:53 pm »
You sounded like a dying animal
I request and apology
:icon_biggrin: The bacterias in my sinuses apologize.
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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 10:01:20 pm »
too many ums,

wan is pronounced juan.


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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 10:46:49 pm »
Nice wrap-up of games :) Maybe next round spend an extra 10-20 seconds quickly describing what happened with the other 2 players that you did not focus your talk on.

Your pause and description points are good :) Enjoyable reviews etc.

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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 10:58:03 pm »
Nice wrap-up of games :) Maybe next round spend an extra 10-20 seconds quickly describing what happened with the other 2 players that you did not focus your talk on.

Your pause and description points are good :) Enjoyable reviews etc.

Thanks FD - I agree, and I also would like to get a bit more detailed for future reviews when I have some more time to prepare. I should be able to make sure more players are covered once I've had an idea to think about for a week or two. 

Any ideas on a central topic for next round?  (I know it's hard without seeing the matches ^_^)
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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 03:42:04 am »
pros/cons of manip'n?
when to/not to manip?

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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 08:00:43 am »
rkk does not manip very well, ask maga!

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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 11:28:17 am »
i disagree,

i think top 5 manippers are


Maga
Seksi
LW
RKK
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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 11:47:50 am »
Would take off LW from the list (current one at least, he used to a good bit) 

Not sure who else I'd add though.  I'm somewhat of a candidate to make it, but I don't play very much haha.  I'll think on it.  Maga Seksi top two though, pretty even on it imo.  Both use it ruthlessly some games, and don't use it at all others. 
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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 11:53:12 am »
I think the best maniper ever was skyfire_ice , not sure about his FML games in S1 but in bnet he was a good user the private chat feature :D

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Skyfire_ice (Player 1) to Player 2 : omg player 3 is skyfireice!
Skyfire_ice (Player 1) to Player 3 : omg player 4 is skyfireice!
Skyfire_ice (Player 1) to Player 4 : omg player 2 is skyfireice!

just an example ^^

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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 11:55:18 am »
I think the best maniper ever was skyfire_ice , not sure about his FML games in S1 but in bnet he was a good user the private chat feature :D

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Skyfire_ice (Player 1) to Player 2 : omg player 3 is skyfireice!
Skyfire_ice (Player 1) to Player 3 : omg player 4 is skyfireice!
Skyfire_ice (Player 1) to Player 4 : omg player 2 is skyfireice!

just an example ^^

This is exactly what LW used to do and I find that hilarious.

I remember him PMing everyone saying "peace?" in the first 20 seconds

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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 12:53:49 pm »
lw barely manips. He asks once for peace than teaches you a lesson for not listening.

rkk tries to manip but rage easily and talks badly to his opponents which is counterproductive

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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 01:06:27 pm »
Hmm, that's true.  My list was more by most not best.  Will rethink (also RKK was less Mr. McRagey a few seasons ago =D)
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Re: RRR - Redkeekee Round Reviews
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 02:37:14 pm »
for manipping u also need someone , who is willed getting manipped w/o backing it up with scout/thinking/ffa-experience/knowledge of the players. As annoying as manipulation sometimes is, the guys , who  trust it too easily are often to blame as much as the ones, who are using it.

from the current league-players iŽd say the following are the guys, who are using manips the most or the most effectively:

Humans7ar
Ugrilainen
Magadansky
DarkFlameMaster
Seksi
Lightweight

have an eye on Svedirko, j33. and FiRel)rAgOn


btw nice feature rkk. maybe sum up the most important things after every game 
( maybe  in a flashy visual way ).
My suggestion for the next round: Maybe look out for key-situations to gain significant advantage or/and things needed to happen/ to do for a turning point, comeback.