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The FML community wants ...

Ugrilainen to stay admin and Lightweight going to hell.
5 (35.7%)
Ugrilainen to give up his admin spot and Lightweight to come back.
2 (14.3%)
Ugrilainen to stay admin and Lightweight to play S15
7 (50%)

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Author Topic: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?  (Read 7576 times)

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Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« on: December 19, 2012, 03:16:20 pm »
Hello everybody. After being kicked from the chat another time by Ugrilainen, the barrel seems full to me. I want you guys to vote and ask for your opinion. Do you want me back to fml (that includes Ugrilainen giving up his admin spot) or would you like me to leave fml and never come back?  :icon_question: :icon_question: :icon_question:

In my eyes Ugri is no longer capable of doing his job neutral as for example Pinballmap, Mage and Renaud do. He doesn't accept any different opinion except from his and keeps banning people from the chatbox. I have been a trustable force to fml when i saw that it was worth to be part of this league. Moreover i always told you guys my opinion even if it did cost me my participation in this league, because sometimes the truth needs to be told. Ugrilainen said that he won't be admin of this league when people don't want him to and here i am to ask you guys about it.
I think he was admin for way too long and prevented players like Eshan, Majin and Lightweight to be still part of this league. All good players that could be still playing here under different circumstances and if they wouldn't have to argue with Ugri.

Make your choice dear community. If you vote against me i promise to be gone from fml forever. If you vote against Ugri i will take part of this league as i always planned to.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 03:21:38 pm »
I'll speak for everyone in FML in saying we really don't care about any of this.

Not many players are as emotionally invested in such mundane matters as you are.  They just want to play FFA, and FML happens to be the only capable area of finding decent players/ producing games.



Edit: The issue between you and Ugri is between you and Ugri.  We don't care who is admin, we don't care who plays, the majority of people just want to play the damned game.
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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 03:23:41 pm »
It is interesting. A few facts :

- I'm not against LW playing in the league, I even asked him to do so. He refused though.

- LW is the only one banned from cbox

- He is banned from cbox because after I was trying to help a new player register and play a game (Musk), he told him and I quote "to be carefull of the Admin which name start with U who pretends to be nice at first but rule this league like a dictator"

- LW is mad because I consider he is too unstable to get admin right on the FML bot. He then called me a dickhead. He insulted admins a lot in the past, rioted against Worpex. Now he riots against me

But fine, if 3 guys from FML want me to give up my admin spot I will. Only respectfull request is that you guys post a message about it. Problem is presented like me vs LW, it is more about LW vs himself.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 03:24:18 pm »
@Persu: No, you don't speak for everyone. You have one vote as everybody else. You may not care about anything that happens around this league, but i do. Make your vote and let other people decide. There is no "Lightweight and Ugri together" anymore. It is either him or me.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 03:25:43 pm »
@Persu: No, you don't speak for everyone. You have one vote as everybody else. You may not care about anything that happens around this league, but i do. Make your vote and let other people decide. There is no "Lightweight and Ugri together" anymore. It is either him or me.


I'm just being honest, no one cares.  90% of the players don't even post, which is clearly evidence of them not caring what goes on behind the scenes.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 03:26:47 pm »
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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 03:27:31 pm »
notsureifsrs

Razor is a prime example.

He doesn't care because neither option has any impact on him, he just wants good FFA games.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 03:30:57 pm »
He wrote me that in october just fyi :

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Hey Ugri, i don't want to make drama or create rumours anymore. Neither i will make a new account. I just want to be a silent follower, because i like the ffa scene. Let us forgot the old stories if you are willing to do so. My behaviour was always to provoke you, but it is time to do something different ;). Peace

One day a nice guy, one day a raging nerd. Lets just wait for tomorrow.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 03:32:08 pm »
One of the reasons that you aren't capable of doing the admin job anymore is that you pull responsibilities away from you.

Yes, i warned a new member from you, because otherwise you could  try to spool him into your "i am a nice guy" clouds.

I didn't want to join clan FML on east, because to me it doesn't matter if i am in this clan or not. It is 2012 and i thought as a player that is in this community for years i could get admin rights for the hostbot as everybody else, but you rioted against it.
I have been proven right since things developed the way you wanted them to. What is surprising that you didn't care about F10EX having admin rights , although he insulted you personally.

It is my rock solid opinion that you aren't a good admin. You have no cojones.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 03:33:40 pm »
Yes, thank you for posting this. I was able to apoligize for my mistakes. You don't even see your mistakes and now you try to conceal things. Accept my opinion.

@Steppin: This is dead serious.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 03:34:51 pm »
You said I had no cojones yesterday because when I was being insulted I wouldnt stick to my decision of banning.

So now I banned you after you insulted me you take offense... but I cannot unban you or I would have no cojones! :)

Yeah I forgot F10EX. He is banned too from cbox after he insulted me because he wouldnt get points from a ladder game he won while players all disced on an unstable bot.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2012, 03:36:12 pm »
Yes, thank you for posting this. I was able to apoligize for my mistakes. You don't even see your mistakes and now you try to conceal things. Accept my opinion.

@Steppin: This is dead serious.

The more we post, the less ppl will read lol. Let's AT tonight my friend

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2012, 03:39:57 pm »
You can keep me banned from the chatbox and make your propaganda there with Persuade, but if you want to be taken as a serious league you have to accept a poll like this. And that "you have no balls" is a reason for you to ban someone from the chatbox, then i think the rude worldwide web is not a good place for you.

The FML community will make the right choice for their own good.

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2012, 03:42:51 pm »
You can keep me banned from the chatbox and make your propaganda there with Persuade, but if you want to be taken as a serious league you have to accept a poll like this. And that "you have no balls" is a reason for you to ban someone from the chatbox, then i think the rude worldwide web is not a good place for you.

The FML community will make the right choice for their own good.

well the poll is there right?

I even tolerated your insults yesterday. What I dont want is you trying to destroy what we try to organize with new players. But you always like to provoke me as you said before. lets' AT tonight and drink champagne

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Re: Is Ugri still acceptable as admin?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 03:52:22 pm »
Lightweight.

Provide examples to back up your claim.

Who else has unfairly been banned from the chatbox?

What decisions has Ugri made that have negatively impacted FML.

We need proof, not just your word. 

Eshan was re-banned by Worpex, not Ugri.
Majin was banned because of the fiasco with Louis.

If you want us to take this "seriously", then give us a reason to.