Orcs

[FML|Renaud]

Btw, any one remember ffa on roc, where orc where shit and unplayable since they din;t have bats/orb, and UD was the best race, since there was no panda/tank air attack/bats

good times

[hydro]

Btw, any one remember ffa on roc, where orc where shit and unplayable since they din;t have bats/orb, and UD was the best race, since there was no panda/tank air attack/bats

good times

orc in ffa was a big joke back then

[Rain]

Ofc its natural that any one of us good solo players here will most likely win anyone with any race in a 1v1 situation (2players dead). Its stupid to question that since after all these ffa replays ive watched the ffa players often have pretty bad micro(or they dont care)

Still its pretty stupid, yet usual, for RSM to make statements like that and I hope hes atleast semi-trolling. Since there is no army from UD that beats a 100/100 fully upgraded wyw/caster, assuming hero lvls are similar and the player skill lvl are atleast somewhat similar.

[FML|Renaud]

Still its pretty stupid, yet usual, for RSM to make statements like that

lol :D

[Peregrine]

wtf RSM only Al Pacino is allowed to speak like this

[FML|Renaud]

was reading SS's orc ground guide, this part made me smile :)

Perhaps that is the most satisfying aspect of this army, knowing that you have defeated your opponents by using a combination of your greatest strengths, rather than exploiting simple and nearly unstoppable aspects of your race.

A great quote from a great man!

[daselend]

Change your signature to "world's advocate of orc's imbalance" please. It's getting boring, really. And your arguments always rely on your micro being insufficient, if you haven't noticed. There has been great players beating really great Orcs, such as plush. Why do you think that is?

[FML|Renaud]

simple: teaming & rushing

I'm willing to agree orc is not the best race when it comes to winning ffa, but it IS the best race when it comes to winning battle in FFA.  And this topic was mostly so i could see that little trick ppl might have vs them, turns out only ducks has a real plan, and i cant wait to see if it works

edit: i stand corrected, in s7 the orc was not teamed, however he was greatly out gold

[daselend]

I'm willing to agree orc is not the best race when it comes to winning ffa, but it IS the best race when it comes to winning battle in FFA.

That's my key point. Glad you see it like that. Btw, battle.suck style might be better than standard Orc army. Takes quite the micro though.

[hydro]

renaud is gettin soft - i might have to pick up where he's leaving off

[FML|Renaud]

haha slythe told me the same thing a while back ^^ but that's probably because the last few fml game lacked orc!

[Ugrilainen]

Duck wont probably show to his match so we wont enjoy his demonstration vs y.z

[FML|Renaud]

So about the order of killing stuff... i always though kodo only gave +10%, but turns out its +20%, so its probably the first thing that should be killed? (assuming hes not massing bats)

i mean it dies in a second, and as far as dps goes, its equivalent to killing 1/5 of the army

[hydro]

yes, that's right.  in roc it would give +10% and then tft gave an upgrade that allowed kodo to add +20%.  i would like to add that renaud is an orc in disguise, as his forum title says "tauren".

[rsm]

For the record I was trolling, Undead is terrible in every game type. I thought it was obvious the second I said orc wasn't broken.