S13 Map Poll/Discussion

[Redkeekee]

oh yeah, forgot to mention need tavern on LT but im a BIG BIG fan of it.

[FML|Renaud]

OR we could play on the TFT version of LT, that already contains a tavern!

[FML|WorpeX]

OR we could play on the TFT version of LT, that already contains a tavern!

oh GOD. I forgot that shit existed. That has the be the biggest pile of shit map ever made. I'd rather we played on Emerald.

[Ugri2]

Customing official map wouldnt be very good to make the game available for none pure FML members : no one outside FML would be able to watch the replays :(

[FML|Renaud]

says the guy who create thunderlake tavern!
(but yeah I see your point)

[Ugri2]

says the guy who create thunderlake tavern!
(but yeah I see your point)

Because a FFA map without tavern sucks hardcore.

[Wrecktify]

OR we could play on the TFT version of LT, that already contains a tavern!

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[ATiBright]

Or we could just not play lost temple or put it in the map pool because its extremely unbalanced map in general.  There is a reason every league took it out of the map pool.
If you need examples: The chokes at the entrances make it impossible for undead to push into a towered orc/human base, the health fountain has far greater usefulness for orc and Human players.  The map has 2 corner goldmines that are much more easily accessible by 2 players depending on spawns then the other 2 players.

Wetlands, and Deathrose have plenty of votes lets stop this "lost temple" madness

[Wrecktify]

Ya cause wetlands doesnt have a choke point lul. 

[Rain]

Or we could just not play lost temple or put it in the map pool because its extremely unbalanced map in general.  There is a reason every league took it out of the map pool.
If you need examples: The chokes at the entrances make it impossible for undead to push into a towered orc/human base, the health fountain has far greater usefulness for orc and Human players.  The map has 2 corner goldmines that are much more easily accessible by 2 players depending on spawns then the other 2 players.

Wetlands, and Deathrose have plenty of votes lets stop this "lost temple" madness

LT is "perfectly" balanced in anything else than 1v1, its one of the most balanced 2v2 maps and still in most leagues, only one that I think is more balanced is TM. The reason why its not balanced in 1v1 is because of no taverns for elf(/ud), and how easy it is for orc to creep middle and for human to expo. The 2nd and 3rd one become pretty much irrelevant when there are 4players in the map.

[Pinballmap]

8 Player Map Choice:
1: Market Square
2: Twilight Ruins


6 Player Map Choice:
3: Silverpine Forest
4: Monsoon

4 Player map Choice:
1: DeathRose
3: Twisted Meadows

"New" Map Choice:
7: Spider Falls
11: Mur'Gul Oasis

[Redkeekee]

Or we could just not play lost temple or put it in the map pool because its extremely unbalanced map in general.  There is a reason every league took it out of the map pool.
If you need examples: The chokes at the entrances make it impossible for undead to push into a towered orc/human base, the health fountain has far greater usefulness for orc and Human players.  The map has 2 corner goldmines that are much more easily accessible by 2 players depending on spawns then the other 2 players.

Wetlands, and Deathrose have plenty of votes lets stop this "lost temple" madness

LT is "perfectly" balanced in anything else than 1v1, its one of the most balanced 2v2 maps and still in most leagues, only one that I think is more balanced is TM. The reason why its not balanced in 1v1 is because of no taverns for elf(/ud), and how easy it is for orc to creep middle and for human to expo. The 2nd and 3rd one become pretty much irrelevant when there are 4players in the map.

this.  LT FTW just need tavernz.  can also link to map in replay posts..

[ATiBright]

Ya cause wetlands doesnt have a choke point lul.

Bases are too small on wetlands to go tower crazy, and games are going to be far faster paced then lost temple.

And rain the theory that Lost Temple is balanced in everything but solo is a joke, in FFA and 2s any centralized (a single) healing fountain is going to favor Orc.  I think fountain maps in general are broken as it greatly increases the power of certain races/heroes and decreases the usefulness of other heroes and units.  And the biggest flaw in lost temple for FFA is the fact there are 10 goldmines and 2 out of 4 spawns get much better position to 2 of those goldmines. 

[Redkeekee]

what do you mean 10 gold mines.. there are 12.  And I don't understand how you mean 2 are easier?  2 people spawn next to the lab, making it easier for them to go to the island, but the other 2 spawn next to the shop, which has an expo past it thats an easy orange camp...  Both have benefits, one is easier to get the other has better item/position.  What version of Lost Temple are you thinking of...?  As for fountain boo-friggin-hoo.  Some maps favor races, and fountains are one of the less drastic favoring factors.  There's a single healing fountain in the center of deathrose and people aren't crying about it.

[Wrecktify]

8 Player Map Choice:
1: Market Square
2: Twilight Ruins


6 Player Map Choice:
3: Silverpine Forest
4: Monsoon

4 Player map Choice:
1: DeathRose
3: Twisted Meadows

"New" Map Choice:
7: Spider Falls
11: Mur'Gul Oasis

GOGOGO MORE VOTES FOR OASIS!!11