Nooblex's Guide to FFA

[FML|Renaud]

K time is 5:02 for silverpine
(figured why the speed was slow, it was from last game where i slowed it down at the end to quit at the right time)

[rygorych]

Yeah, I'm not going to beat that.

New rule: Expo and T2 going.

[FML|Renaud]

k!
(btw imo we only need 1 worker in the newly build expo, this rule is mostly for orc/ud since I'll have 5 wisp by the time the entangle is done)

[FML|Renaud]

Going T2 and 5 worker on active mine

Silverpine
5:10
4:50

[rygorych]

4:53 with T2 90% done. Could do more workers (if it wasn't SP), then t2 would be slower, obv. I can probably cut down 10-15 sec, was my first attempt.

Which BO do you use? How many archers/fiends? Do you pre-build as NE?

[FML|Renaud]

For ne I did the prebuild build in the guide (I think I had 1-2 archer by the time I started creeping)
For ud I used gouls, I had about 4 for creeping and 2 that stayed for more wood

4:05 on sp (but we already knew they where imba because of fast build)

[rygorych]

How far was T2 progress as HU?

[FML|Renaud]

about 70%

[FML|WorpeX]

3.21sec with T3 34% done.

[rygorych]

lol Worp I call shens on that, post replay.

[mogg_maniac]

On Silverpine:

3:39 with 5 worker and T2 40%
4:12 with 5 acos and T2 15%
4:55 with 5 wisps and T2 95%
4:56 with 5 peons and T2 80%

thats a funny competition, gonna try to beat Renaud's NE time 

edit:  2:46 with 5 wisps in expo and no tech. But I wouldn't recommend this strat for serious games   

P.S: I'm missing a cool lol-smiley here :(

[Nooblex]

lol I loved how this entire things turned into a "who can expand faster" debate.

First of all, look at the stats above. HU will always be faster because of power build, UD's mine builds faster and doesn't need to clear creeps (+you can do the tavern build in the guide and tech much faster + FE too) and NE is faster with faster tech.

Second, on maps like market, monsoon and deathrose orc is much slower.

Third, 5 peons on gold from walking them is rarely a good idea in real games, unless it's a shredder map.

Fourth, who cares, it's one bullet point FFS.

:)

[Ugrilainen]

Nooblex play season 12 please! 1 game every 2 weeks is manageable!

[FML|WorpeX]

lol Worp I call shens on that, post replay.

Oh darn, I think I forgot to save it!

[rygorych]

lol I loved how this entire things turned into a "who can expand faster" debate.

First of all, look at the stats above. HU will always be faster because of power build, UD's mine builds faster and doesn't need to clear creeps (+you can do the tavern build in the guide and tech much faster + FE too) and NE is faster with faster tech.

Second, on maps like market, monsoon and deathrose orc is much slower.

Third, 5 peons on gold from walking them is rarely a good idea in real games, unless it's a shredder map.

Fourth, who cares, it's one bullet point FFS.

:)

No I realize I was wrong now. The resources to T2 and expo aren't as tight as I remembered.