FFA ladder advancement

[Peregrine]

Is it really?! Then maybe it was a bad day

[IWANTWC4]

Is it really?! Then maybe it was a bad day

I could be wrong, god knows I have been before.

But I believe that's what they said in discord after you talked about your lag issues.  It's been fine for me and I normally have lag on other w3arena bots.

[SteppinRazor]

Awesome stuff!  Is there a website with stats yet?

[aarnikratti]

divide random heroes away from normal bot pls ... make a seperate random heroes bot or so... its bad practice and always annoying to having to wait for a REAL ffa game with normal heroes cuz the random hero lobby is not filled

I agree 100% random heroes is pretty garbage to begin with.  And its clear people agree because those are the lobbies that never fill.  So we gotta wait like what 15 mins for next map to be hosted.

I do not agree. I love random heroes and so do many others.

[Ugrilainen]

Many love RH
Some hate RH

the good ratio is 60/40 normal heroes

ladder rankings are here :
http://stats.onligamez.ru/?top&st=3

last replays and game results here :
http://stats.onligamez.ru/?games&st=3

Current hosted game here :
http://stats.onligamez.ru/

[ZsSuperCumulo]

I thinks this news deserves a meme 

[ZsSuperCumulo]

[QQs]

nailed it

[IWANTWC4]

Many love RH
Some hate RH

the good ratio is 60/40 normal heroes

ladder rankings are here :
http://stats.onligamez.ru/?top&st=3

last replays and game results here :
http://stats.onligamez.ru/?games&st=3

Current hosted game here :
http://stats.onligamez.ru/

I think the biggest issue I have is the garbage maps with the random heroes.

Like silverpine, crucible and twilight are good ones.  But turtle rock and twisted are garbage for random heroes and FFA games in general.

[Peregrine]

the rare case where i agree with trump

random heroes is a joke gametype, i cant believe its 40% of the games

only a few people enjoy it, i think it should be treated more like a side game, 10-20% of the games.

they take a really long time to fill up because so few people play RH. This slows games for everyone else. If you have less RH games, then they would actually fill up more quickly, because the core RH players would all wait for the game to come

[Joggel]

Games should be started after some time if at least 4 players are in.
At the moment you have to wait forever for a game to get started

[IWANTWC4]

the rare case where i agree with trump

random heroes is a joke gametype, i cant believe its 40% of the games

only a few people enjoy it, i think it should be treated more like a side game, 10-20% of the games.

they take a really long time to fill up because so few people play RH. This slows games for everyone else. If you have less RH games, then they would actually fill up more quickly, because the core RH players would all wait for the game to come

I agree.  10%  much better than 40.

If us two agree then it must be so.

[aarnikratti]

Don't listen to those noobs complaining about rdm heroes. Thank god we have people like Wicked and Ugri managing the bot, they know the importance of RDM hero ffas.

[Seksi]

The debate about RH maps has gone on since their inception.  I would personally like 25% RH hero maps, or every 4th game.   Not 10%, but also not 40%, 25% is a pretty good medium.   

Either way, tough to complain about anything when we have a working ladder and reset coming soon.   Plus 1.29 patch!   Should be plenty of activity again and competition. 

[Ugrilainen]

Issue is many here think that the 30 active FML active players = the whole world of FFA

Obviously competitive players are not fans of FFA with rh heroes since tryhard strategies are not really in order.

Recreational players - that make the bot have game started, love RH and rioted when we reduced the rate to 40%.

This is just the difference between @Eshan like players that see the game through the scope of FML only and claim that "only a few people enjoy it" and guys like me that talk to all sorts of players (no offense).

When I ran playFFA, it was NOT true that rh heroes games filled slower than normal ones, that was the contrary!

As for the games not starting fast @Joggel - the bot is not yet started officially (waiting for FML admins to fix the website) and tehre is still the competition of Profforg that refuses to close his bot (to undermine this one).

We will get there, its not like we didnt do it before - when playFFA started, 5 to 6 FFA bots popped up in the next 2 months - often ran by upset people wanting playFFA to fail.

Good management > any competition.

Note that Im just putting the bases of a successful ladder system after you guys asked me to a few months ago. I organized negotiations so a working system is installed and controlled by FML.

If when it's done and I'm no longer in the picture, you guys want to change everything and put 0% of rh games, be my guest. While i'm here just allow me to make something that works instead.