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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2016, 11:04:25 am »
Since the question is about CURRENT player (and thanks to everyone who has voted for me but I am quite inactive atm), my ranking would look something like that (based on my limited knowledge past few months though):

Human:
1. Soso (he learns slowly but he learns regardless and has managed to shake off a lot of his flaws in his gameplay)
2. Cumulo (consistent player, though with questionable decision-making from time to time)
3. Noexxx (great micro but inferior ffa sense compared to the other 2)
 
Orc:
As everyone said, the orcs are quite bad in these times (no orcs like yz, nline or ludix). Shave is self-proclaimed best orc but his lack of game vision certainly doesnt put him on par (he only knows how to abuse item stacking and imba orc hero hexastomp). I would rank certain random players here as best orcs, like Alien or Seksi (if he still plays though).

Undead:
I havent seen much undead games, but based on performance in FML, I'd rank Tyrant as first and Jaod as 2nd. 3rd is quite difficult to determine.

NE:
1. j33, just because suomi brother and certainly one of the most consistent players there is.
2. Under.sta (though the limited games cannot point for a consistency)
3. Wreck (he just rusty :D)


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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2016, 08:17:39 pm »
Thank you for kind words everyone who listed me.  Its true I didnt have much motivation to win this season, and blowing people up has become more fun.  I will try to get some practivce in next season.  Also Maga please come back its hard to p4k without you!

Undead:

Tyrant (current player - I guess.  I think I could stomp him, but he won a season and is doing good this time around?  I feel like Jaod is probably close.)

Maga (All time) - only player who can do this when he is getting 3v1ed:





Human:

Cumulo (current player)  - plays on a ti-85 with a 14.4 connection from machu pikachu but still manages to beat everyone.  except when he doesnt.  but i think when he loses he is sort of chosing to lose.  also he could have probably elevated Peru to a Zeroth-world country if he stopped spending 80 hours a week on WC3 and making memes.

MYSELF AHAHAHAHAA (all time only 2x hu champ whaaaaaaaaaat?) edit - wait target also 2x hu champ.  ok so me and target tied for best hu all time WHAAAAAAAAAAT???

Orc:

Seksi (Current player) - edit#2 wait so seksi isnt really playing.  OK so no good orcs right now.  Probably all of them are spray-and-pray with auto shotgun eg: mass bats and hope for the best.

Ludix (all time) - He didnt play long but I feel like none of our orcs do.  One of those players you want to rush out immediately before he gets trip 5 or higher, cause if he does you probably lose.

Elf:

j33 (current player) - basically a crappier version of me.  50% better macro, 75% worse fighting skills.  Flies under the radar cause hes norweigian or some crap.

Renaud (all time) - i dont know if I really believe this.  he almost lost to ugri in the finals, whiich makes me think hes probably not the best all time. OK you know what forget it I will list myself again AHAHAHAHAHAH
« Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 08:28:48 pm by Wrecktify »

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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2016, 08:40:43 pm »
LOL Wreck you are back!  :icon_lol:, I never liked family guy, as a matter of fact, never really watched it, but this video seems to fit Maga pretty well  :icon_razz:.
LOL Texas Instruments :D, more like T410s, but yeah kinda shitty with 210ms. Dude stick around, I think season 24 begins in november :)

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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2016, 09:40:09 pm »
Wreck we both know I'm the best NE player current and all time. It's too bad Blizzard decided to give elves chims and hippos as their only unit though, kinda unfair.
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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2016, 09:10:03 am »
Human:
This is tough, since Noexxx is the toughest opponent you can meet in the first 1vq, but he has not yet the macroskills needed to become #1. However, this top 3 is very tight and change depending on the shape of the day.

1. soso
2. Noexxx
3. Cumulo

Elf:

1. Under.Sta
2. Hungover Under.Sta
3. Wreck

Undead:

1. Tyrant
2. Maga

Orc:

1. Me
2. Alien
3. Shave

One thing that is true regarding the earlier debate is the fact that the top level Orc players are not on the same level as the players from other races, when you look at achievements and results. I have my own theory about this, but it will be a separate thread.

Random:

1. Alien
2. Junker (if ud or elf)
3. Slythe

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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2016, 10:31:42 am »
Why isn't anyone mentioning Ena1335 as top 5 orc, He did very well this season, considering the opponents he faced. I mean Renaud in R1, Mog in R2 and Tyrant in R3.

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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2016, 10:48:03 pm »
Human: Soso has a slight edge but these 3 players aren't only top humans, They're also on top of the ffa world

1. soso
2. Noexxx
3. Cumulo

Elf: Under.sta has good micro/good ffa sense plus he usues DH (sorry wreck)

1. Under.Sta
2. wreck
3. j33

Undead: I'd have a slot for Maga if he was actice

1. Tyrant
2. jaod

Orc:

1. Shave
2.
3.

Random: Junker and Eshan have similar styles, junker slightly better micro and Eshan Better game sense.  Seksi come back! We need more random players to be feared!
(had to change my rankings I completely forgot about you eshan)
1. Alien
2. Junker
2.Eshan
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 02:35:26 pm by AlienWareOwnZ »

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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2016, 12:11:00 pm »
I get surprised by how CONSISTENTLY supercumulo gets underestimated, in games and even in these threads.

Current players + all time at the end:

HU:
1. Cumulo
2. soso
3. noexxx

Alltime: Target (dominated the best players with only TWO heroes)

Elf:
1. Under
2. J33
3. Mog - I put him over Wreck cause of this seasons performance

Alltime (F-L-Y - just go back and watch)

Und:
1. Tyrant
2. Alien - I will use random players if I think they are top with that race
3. Junker

Alltime - Maga (DV doesn't have the legacy)

Orc:
1. Shave
2. Eshan (I think I'm pretty good with orc)
3. b1000death (sry fetta, but crying and teaming is not how orcs should play)

Alltime: Daselend or Darknesscalls, hard to say

Random:
1. Alien
2. Eshan (I'll put alien over myself cause he's truly fearsome with some races)
3. Slythe

Alltime: Seksi

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Re: Best current player of each race
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2016, 01:40:15 pm »
Interesting topic.  IMO the level of play in FFA reached its peak around seasons 15-18, a LOT of top players no longer playing anymore.  I've been around since season 10 (I think?) so Ill a little more about players I view as all-time greats, considering I've seen A LOT of them.  But nonetheless, here are my thoughts:

Human

Current
1. Soso
2. Cumulo
3. Noexxx

This is close, soso and cumulo are extremely similar players overall and both have a title.  I think noexxx is on the same level, but lacks a title

All-Time

1. HTRT
2. Lightweight
3. Soso

IMO Lightweight is the best FML player ever without a title.  HTRT could easily be argued as the most skilled FFA player of all-time.  The results speak for themselves, and if you have ever played him, you would know what I mean.  Both in terms of micro and game sense, he watch absolute top-notch.  I think soso's consistency and the title he has puts him on this level as well.

Elf

Current
1. J33
2. Understa
3. Wreck

Understa has performed the best this season, but I'd still take j33 over him in a FFA game.  His game sense is perhaps the best of any player in FML, and his micro is good enough to hold his own against anyone.  Wreck is great but a bit out of shape now and Understa is dominate but will need to prove himself on the big stage before he's #1

All-Time
1. Wreck
2. Renaud
3. J33

Honorable mention to Mog, who is a close #4.  All of these players have an FML title, and having played all of these players when they were at their best, I think Wreck slightly edges out the others but they are all extremely difficult opponents who have mastered playing elf in FFA.

Orc
Current
1. Eshan
2. Fetta
3. Shave

I'm really surprised no one has picked Eshan here, he's had great results this season mostly winning as orc.  Fetta and Shave are fine players as well, though as everyone has stated this is definitely the weakest group.

All-Time
1. Ludix
2. Nline
3. Lightweight

You really don't understand orc imba until you have faced on of these beasts in FFA.  These are the kind of players you had to 2v1 or else you were screwed.  Ludix was one of the most dominate players ever in FML in his relatively brief FFA career, making 2 (or 3?) consecutive semi finals appearances and at least one finals appearance. 

Undead

Current
1. Tyrant
2. Jaod
3. Junker

These 3 players are relatively close, Tyrant gets the edge because he tends to have the best game sense and stays calm though Jaod might be the best microer.

All-Time
1. Maga
2. Seksi
3. Yane

Maga is probably considered to be the best FML player of all time.  Consistent winner, 3 titles, top tier micro and game sense.  Absolutely no weaknesses.  Seksi, like Lightweight, is one of the best players to never win a title, and while he considers himself a random player I think he usually went undead in most important matches.  Despite a very short career, I think Yane deserves top recognition due to his great results and dominating play.

Random

Current
1. Junker
2. Alien
3. Eshan

Junker probably the best microer here, I think Alien is actually better overall but doesn' tplay much anymore.  Eshan is great with orc/elf/hu, never saw him play undead though.

All-Time

1. Seksi
2. Persuade
3. Alien

IMO Seksi was top tier as ud/elf/orc and very solid with human.  Absolutely capable of beating top tier opponents with any of the 4 races.  Persuade was a true random player from several seasons ago who also played all four races extremely well and had great micro, anyone who faced him im sure would agree that he deserves recognition.