FFA Masters League
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Seksi on May 15, 2012, 01:10:58 am
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YES! 2 hours. 2 HOURS?!
WC3 Is the greatest game of all time, the very close second is Diablo II!!! Who loved and played d2 for years too..? Our competitive nature and strategic minds are sure to cross over to D3. I will always love FFA, still play in FML, and still play WC3 from time to time, but now the time is for DIABLO 3!!!
Who will be playing also? Please list your name (battle.net handle, not character name). Now your battle.net ID is what is shown in all newer blizzard games. Also the server you will be playing on (Americas, Europe, Asia)
Seksi, 1158
Americas
I will be playing a wizard first and will be sure to compete with the best in PvP when it comes and PvE in the mean time!!
Hey all my FFA loving friends, come join me in Diablo 3 and let's play together. I have some real life friends already, but the more the merrier!
Who's with me?? :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
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just bought it !going to install it now!
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WC3 Is the greatest game of all time, the very close second is Diablo II!!!
If you've only played Blizzard games and nothing else then sure.
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mage
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Installing now, hopefully I can actually get on haha
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WorpeX#1898
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Redkeekee#1297
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It's always good when the status page showing which realms are down, is in fact itself down. (http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/792/capturenm.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/capturenm.png/)
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I hope this game doesn't destroy the chances of another FML season, with all the impending FFA inactivity.
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I hope this game doesn't destroy the chances of another FML season, with all the impending FFA inactivity.
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Lightweight#2402
ITs my first diablo, may someone tell me what you need weapons for when you actually hit with right mouse and left mouse which are only spells?
The gameplay is fun, but it seems every character is the same. You can't make them individually with skill trees nor you can change their look. Its not fun when everybody has the same hero since all get the same spells. :icon_confused:
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InFlames88ad#2694 is my battletag ! go add me^^ esp to lightweight!
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pkf#1193
game lacks something diablo 2 had, even on inferno... perhaps they shouldn't have made a fucking lvl 60 cap. Also, I hate hate hate the way they present the cinematics now, it's not a terrible american TV show, is it? (e.g. Tyraels cine: I AM JUSTICE...)
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It sucks that the servers are down exactly when i got time to play :/
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PureMalice#1932
But I'm an elitist when it comes to games like this, so don't add me unless your capable of farming inferno with me. Thanks
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I can't stop watching Q's signature....
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I can't stop watching Q's signature....
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Sir Worpex,
you should seek for professional aid!
Best wishes,
Kruppe
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Rolf
<3 Kruppe
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Wno is this Rolf?!? We don't need any more people competing for Kruppe!
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I can't stop watching Q's signature....
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Well I'm glad someone noticed it! It's even better if you have some music on.
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the game diablo 3 has one flaw that i believe makes it worthless compared to games like diablo 2. It is designed for a play-through (designed to be completed).
Furthermore the game is too easy (edit: with this is mean that they made understanding the game too easy, though i also believe the game itself is too easy), comparing diablo 2 and 3 they removed too many features that made different builds viable (i.e. fcr/ias for casters/physical, fhr/fbr are blatantly removed and worst of all they compare the items for you.). - advancing this point i liked the fact that diablo 2 actually had breakpoints that made you need to strategize your entire build before getting the items.
There are too many exploits for a game of this size, there is too little balance between the classes and overall a lack of synergy, the bosses are too easy (diablo on inferno is a quest of who can freeze the illusions behind not-needed holes in the ground the fastest (fase 2)) and it wasn't til yesterday they fixed the azmodan-levelin.
Too many, too good, items makes farming easy. And the fact that they _again_ need to use gold as a currency means that there isn't comparable items or even an item that you can use a currency. furthermore they centralized the fucking trading so that you can do it at an auction-house?! fucking elitism at its best.
I'm sure that a structure like this will make more people play diablo 3/video games, because it is becoming so much easier to sit down and play a game - and actually become good at it (see mentioned above).
i miss d2 already.
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I disagree with you. I played Diablo 2 when it first came out and it was just as big of a train wreck as diablo 3 if not more so. Diablo 2 lord of destruction did infact become a pretty great game but that took awhile. For diablo 3 blizzard has already started doing balance changes, and have already reportedly started fixing legendary/set items, and balancing the easy to farm spots in inferno. Game's not even been out 2 weeks and they have shown they plan to continue updates. As for the gold as currency that's completely fine gold worked on wow itll work on d3, yes its easier to find so things will cost more gold but it equals out.
As for the game being easy, I'm a level 60 demon hunter in inferno with 50K+ DPS, the game is far from "easy" I've already pumped about 3 mil into my gear and can still only farm 2 mini bosses in act 4, Act 1 (still have to skip some rare mobs), and act 2 chests that got nerfed so I don't really do it anymore.
Sure you see a video on youtube of someone beating diablo on inferno, thats cool but guess what only like 10 actual people have "legitimately" (without questing glitching) beat this game on inferno, but your right it must be too easy. And you could argue it still isn't legit cause every DH who beat it abused smokescreen b4 the nerf, the wiz used diamond skin. So I honestly don't know of anyone who's beaten inferno post nerfs. When you see "diablo kill inferno" its people who glitched quests (same thing I did so i could farm act 4 inferno the aspect mini bosses)
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You are completely right in almost every assumption and I agree that i am too rough, but you must understand this situation from my point of view; I played d2 for 12 years - not so much the last 2 years, and I probably put D3 on a piedestal.
concerning the discussion that the game is easy. It's been a week since the game came out, and you're stating that you're only able to "farm 2 mini bosses in act 4". Let me point out again that it's been a week since the game came out, and you're talking about the 16'th act out of 16 possible acts. You're doubtlessly a great gamer, and taking that into account most people will probably only be half as fast as you, but still.
This leads me to your point about being a 50k+ dps DH - you just summarized my entire point about the game being "easy to understand". It doesn't take an explanation of your gear to understand why that is good.
Gold being the currency is probably a matter of taste, but i prefer that one has to chose between being a trader or an "mf'er", but once again the game lends you an opportunity to do it for you.
and relase-d2 wasn't great, release-lod was close to, and became greater with time and I can only hope that d3 will do the same. the hotfixes that are being instated in d3 is in my matter of taste not just an examble of d3 being constantly under development, but also a fact that they could've tested some parts a lot better.
just on a complete sidenote. Kripparrian (i know he's the best of the best) solo'd diablo yesterday (/e2, i just checked and he solo'd diablo 2 days ago)
/e i would just like to emphasize that my main point about the game being easy wasn't that the actual game is easy to play, but that the game is easy to understand every aspect of whereas it took years for people to fully understand diablo 2 and it wasn't til 18 months ago that people realized what "swirlies" are and that completely changed the entire pvp-scene
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what's swirlies?
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Well diablo 2 wasn't difficult to get gear or high DPS on either, especially if you used d2jsp which almost every high level player did and I appreciate d2jsp for keeping the game alive as long as it did.
ofc D3 has its flaws I just have faith it will work out in a few months and blizzard will make it into a great game. Being a guy who grinds away at magic find runs, is still going to be more successful then other people because of the fact you can sell your finds on the AH. It'll be just like D2, the more you play the more wealthy and geared you will be. 10 days into diablo 2 from start to finish you could be on act 5 hell just like there are maybe 1% of d3's population whos gotten part way into inferno right now.
Diablo 2 was actually much easier then D3 when it first came out, the game was actually incredibly easy untill the patch that added synergies, from that point it actually took good gear and decent strategic tactics to beat some Hell bosses.
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In Diablo 2 lod it was almost impossible to get the best gear.
and d2jsp didn't exist back in the classic-days/early LoD-days and didn't become popular til around '06 - which is far into LoD-time (released in 2001?). And even though it made the "mass trading" possible, it wasn't like that at first, and you could not get geared nearly as fast. - i had this discussion with an irl friend yesterday, and he said that my annoyance wasn't towards d3, but towards Blizzard and the way they've taken their games that i used to love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY).
i agree that d2 was as easy (and maybe easier) on normal and nm, but hell wasn't do-able (at a solo-level) til weeks after release - probably mostly because of the immunities, but still i liked the challenge. And i didn't hear of anyone who finished d2 or d2lod within the first week (with or without glitching).
Renaud; Swirlies is what happens when you get mb'd or foh'd (you get some swirly thingys above your head - hence swirlies) that makes the next attack you take stun you additionally.
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it took 10 years for ppl to figure out that when you have swirly thingy about your head you would get stun on the next attack?
Sounds like something you would pick up after a few weeks lol :D
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[insert famous quote about human's minds]
Keep in mind that this swirly dissapears approx. 1.5 sec after it's applied so you have to be darn fast to actually use this in 1on1's - though it has been used a lot in the druid/asn combo for 2v2.
Yes, it sounds funny, but it meant that people would start to play hammerdins with 1 in foh to get a chance of applying a swirly before namelocking (sometimes smiting aswell), and that they therefore become offensive tools instead of defensive.
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Fair enough :P
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whats d2jsp or whatever.
please explain your posts so us trolls knwo what the hell you all are talking about :(
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go to google and type in d2jsp, I assume its the website that made blizzard realize they should do a real money auction house. Used it for its bot back in 2003 when D2jsp was the only working diablo 2 battle.net bot, been using the forums for several years since then.
As for what your saying cheerios, I got LOD the day it came out and I was in hellmode after about a week (which I got inferno in d3 after about a week) yes gear was harder to get in diablo 2 then diablo 3, but if you go on the auction house and spend 5 mil, which 99.8% of the diablo 3 population has not earned yet and use that 5 mil to buy the best gear you can, you still wont be able to do more then a couple of runs in inferno. I have 66K DPS and cant even make a dent in act 2 inferno, we tried doing belial with a full group of very geared monk/wizard/WD/DH and wiped about 20 times before I finally threw in the towel.
The difference is in diablo 2 LOD after release you could kill mephisto, baal, diablo without having the best gear easily with strategic tactics trapping the boss on ledges, or behind pillars.
Compare the number of players who have legitimately beat D3 on inferno (a handful) out of the 8 million copies of the game that's been sold.
Now see the number of copies of Diablo 2/LOD sold a few hundred thousand. And I know there were even more people who had beaten hell mode, because you could farm hell gear on Nightmare meph/d/baal whereas here on D3 the only place to farm somewhat inferno ready gear is in inferno.
Diablo 3 has its problems absolutely, but difficulty is definitely not an issue. Legendaries and Set items are underpowered, the primary story line is lacking (however I've highly enjoyed reading all the journals and books found along the way), the way heroes skills are built is atrocious compared to where I left off on diablo 2 with synergies and skill points. The fact the game released without being PVP ready.
I have faith that they are going to fix these things tho, the difficulty definitely not an issue.
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Let me again point out that what i find really sad with d3 is not the toughness of playing the actual game but the difficulty there is to understand the mechanics in the game.
Gamers got better since d2 and are therefore better at exploiting the weaknesses there are in games and the exploits that made it possible to gain levels in d3 were far "better" than the ones you could find in d2 or d2lod within the first few weeks (later came the glitching to cowruns nightmare that were exploited hardcore). How many people were lvl 99 1 week after release of d2classic or lod? how many people were lvl 99 1 month after release? a year after? 10 years after? (getting lvl 99 only "really" became an option with the bots you mention). Now compare that to how many people are level 60 in d3.
but again we touch the dynamics of the game where you point out that farming items were easier in d2 and it's harder in d3 - though the trading has been made easier which makes it easier for the average player to upgrade his gear compared to d2. it is this idea of making things easier for the players that i find repulsive (i know this is not the right word, but i don't know others that are better).
to me it seems more like you're justifying that what you have achieved so far in d3 isn't worth nothing but actually a good job. I'm not saying otherwise.
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Uh, I had 3 99's on the LOD ladder, my friend zappadoo had 4 all in LOD before the botting era. Hitting 99 wasn't very difficult in the first 3 years after release, when they released the synergy patch is when hitting 99 became very difficult.
And thats a mechanics issue on this game. On diablo 2 there was very little benefit of being "99" for gear, whereas on d3 you need to be level 60 to use late game gear, they obviously wanted leveling to be easier on d3 then in D2. On diablo 2 you could equip every piece of gear u could possibly want by level 88.
I need to mention as well, they didn't want this to be a diablo 2 clone. The real validity of diablo 2 died very early because of the complete joke of an economy. Inserting an auction house does make it easier for the average player to get geared, but its like diablo 2 in the fact more time spent playing = more reward in the game. That's pretty much how every RPG works, spend more time playing, be better off in the game. Not to mention its quite obvious there is going to be an expansion that is going to let people level higher, add more difficulty, and new items waiting to be farmed. And if were lucky maybe even addding certain items that can't be sold on the auction house.
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so you were lvl 99 a week after diablo-release? that's pretty well-done. I don't think anyone in europe was even lvl 99 after a 3 weeks.
you are right that you didn't need lvl 99 to equip items, but a +100 life each level after bo made each level worth while if you wanted to do pvp. on a sidenote you needed lvl 95 to equip ilvl99 crafted amus, but you are right that most items had a level cap of 87.
Diablo 3 is definatly a good game and I just wanted more i guess (probably more of a clone than what would've been good for the game). I think we should have this discussion in a month and then see what new, exciting aspects we have found.
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I was responding to the months/year after release on the 99s ofc I didn't have a 99 a week in, but like I said that 99 in D2 is completely different from the 60 here in D3. I actually like the way they redid leveling you come out 60 right around the time you finish hell it works out perfectly, I just wish leveling correlated into better skills more directly like it did in D2.
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please explain your posts so us trolls knwo what the hell you all are talking about :(
Hahaha :D
Yeah, I gave up ^_^
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I am on my 3rd try vs diablo on Hell. It is already his 3rd form and i will maybe need 1 more minute to finish him after working 10 min on it then bnet kicks me from the server. I checked my router which did not reconnect. Love blizzard for selling sth that is actually a beta version of a game. Frustration factor for me very high so far.
ANd ofc i can't relog. It is still an unplayable game 2 weeks after the release. I think i am going to sell it soon.
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the problem is that you can NOT sell it since the key is already attached to your battle.net Account. Im still having fun by playing it (atm im at the end of Act2 in Hell)
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Might have a bnet account that's independent. I know I gave serious thought to buying mine on a separate email in case it turned out to be shit. In the end I decided I would give Blizzard one more chance to prove itself to me. I still have faith it will end up being good though, I think they'll patch it to make so. Whether this is a rip off scheme is another debate, but I think in a year from now I'll still be having fun.
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I'm still having fun, but its about time I make a new char to 60 cause my DH is almost fully geared. Missing nats ring, and a good bow thats about it (76K DPS). Also got a magic find set for over 200 MF
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uhmm. I know that this guy has an ego that rivals most of the guys in here, but I think he got some good points (and some bad ones), but it's been over a month since i wanted to hear what you thought now:D
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