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League => League Discussion => Topic started by: rygorych on March 19, 2012, 07:00:16 pm

Title: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 19, 2012, 07:00:16 pm
OK I decided to take baby steps towards playing less cheese heroes.

Which bad hero should I use next game?
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|Renaud on March 19, 2012, 07:17:59 pm
vote for worpexlord
Because you won't be able to use him unless you play ud (a cheeseless race) or get a DR to charm an aco (and in that case you only get 1 real orc hero, and spend a ton of gold for a completely useless tech tree)

Edit:  Although I guess you are willing to take the cheeseless risk now that you have 50 pts and are pretty much auto qualified in the semi? :P
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 19, 2012, 07:42:34 pm
I SAID BABY STEPS
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: Redkeekee on March 19, 2012, 08:14:19 pm
I'm very sad nobody else voted for FL.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|Mage on March 19, 2012, 08:20:46 pm
I did :)
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|WorpeX on March 19, 2012, 08:24:51 pm
I voted for Naga. I mean, the other hereos are pretty awful in their own right but... naga...
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|Mage on March 19, 2012, 08:27:35 pm
Naga, FS, FL for the ultimate base kill?  I think we've got a winner Ebo
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: Wrecktify on March 19, 2012, 08:36:06 pm
Firelol worst (and kewlest) on the list.  Tinker and naga are quite viable in FFA, bemaster would probably be pretty good with his summons getting all the buffs.  Though I guess a zerked enduranced spawn would multiply fast too?:D
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 19, 2012, 08:43:39 pm
3 - 3 - 3 so far, this is getting SERIOUS!!!

And I guess everyone hates tinker and bm... o well, I don't like them either, harr
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: Persuade on March 19, 2012, 08:57:00 pm
I'm going FL next round so please remove him from the list.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 19, 2012, 09:02:44 pm
I'm going FL next round so please remove him from the list.

Let's both go FL and others will copy and every one will go FL and then we will have giant orgy of FL fornication and we will all have lots of FL babies.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: Persuade on March 19, 2012, 09:11:20 pm
I should help promote this decision, but I have a feeling that you will choose orc again next round and come up with a last minute excuse as to why you decided to cheese 3x in a row.  ;P
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|WorpeX on March 19, 2012, 10:04:57 pm
I'm going FL next round so please remove him from the list.

Let's both go FL and others will copy and every one will go FL and then we will have giant orgy of FL fornication and we will all have lots of FL babies.

FL is asexual. He doesn't need fornication.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: Redkeekee on March 19, 2012, 10:30:15 pm
reason tinker and beastmastaaarrr don't have any votes is cuz persuade already proved they are anything but bad in ffa ;p.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: Nooblex on March 19, 2012, 10:40:34 pm
Firelol worst (and kewlest) on the list.  Tinker and naga are quite viable in FFA, bemaster would probably be pretty good with his summons getting all the buffs.  Though I guess a zerked enduranced spawn would multiply fast too?:D

Yeah FL is the only one who is really really bad. Naga works fine with NE, as do BM and Tinker. Pitlord is actually pretty good for NE and UD.

Honestly don't really care about this cheesing shit. Being innovative is cool (i.e. new creeping tactic, panda/pit/potm, new build order, etc), but really, no one cares if you "cheese" or not.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 20, 2012, 05:23:04 am
Well, I care. I want to see myself and others win using non-standard heroes :)

And as for PL/Naga, they were used in a grand total of 2 games in all of last 2 seasons. So that's around 0.1% usage.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|Renaud on March 20, 2012, 02:47:10 pm
why is the cryptlord rename peterlord? that sounds more like pitlord, who is actually a good ffa hero... or did you get scared once you figured you couldn't abuse orc w/ him?
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 20, 2012, 02:50:12 pm
why is the cryptlord rename peterlord? that sounds more like pitlord, who is actually a good ffa hero... or did you get scared once you figured you couldn't abuse orc w/ him?

Pitlol is bad. 2 times used in all of s11/s12, <0.1% usage.

P.S. BABY STEPS I SAID
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|Renaud on March 20, 2012, 02:54:01 pm
Yeah, but now 3 of us have voted for an actually good hero, while initially we had voted for the worst one :/ THIS IS UNFAIR!
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 20, 2012, 02:54:53 pm
Yeah, but now 3 of us have voted for an actually good hero, while initially we had voted for the worst one :/ THIS IS UNFAIR!

I actually ninja-changed it after 1 vote. And he is not actually good, though I agree he's better than the others on the list.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|WorpeX on March 20, 2012, 03:16:06 pm
why is the cryptlord rename peterlord? that sounds more like pitlord, who is actually a good ffa hero... or did you get scared once you figured you couldn't abuse orc w/ him?

Listen. Crypt Lord is the greatest FFA hero to ever set insectoid legs into the world of warcraft 3. I don't want to hear your lies and slander!
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: rygorych on March 20, 2012, 03:22:58 pm
why is the cryptlord rename peterlord? that sounds more like pitlord, who is actually a good ffa hero... or did you get scared once you figured you couldn't abuse orc w/ him?

Listen. Crypt Lord is the greatest FFA hero to ever set insectoid legs into the world of warcraft 3. I don't want to hear your lies and slander!

I know. I actually removed crypt lord from the list because he was clearly too OP to be included. Worpex, you abuse that cheese hero WAY too much, I'm sorry, I can't include it.
Title: Re: No more cheese heroes for me!
Post by: FML|WorpeX on March 20, 2012, 03:44:05 pm
why is the cryptlord rename peterlord? that sounds more like pitlord, who is actually a good ffa hero... or did you get scared once you figured you couldn't abuse orc w/ him?

Listen. Crypt Lord is the greatest FFA hero to ever set insectoid legs into the world of warcraft 3. I don't want to hear your lies and slander!

I know. I actually removed crypt lord from the list because he was clearly too OP to be included. Worpex, you abuse that cheese hero WAY too much, I'm sorry, I can't include it.

I'm glad someone understands.