FFA Masters League
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lightweight! on March 09, 2012, 03:22:34 pm
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I don't see any sense to go on with the discussion on the chatboard so i make this thread. Yeah i made some idiotic things like pretending to be eshan in the board, trying to be a bigger dickhead then rabbit and pretending also to be lel-.
@F10EX: The chatlog from today on clan fml northrend: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/f10exchatlog.jpg/
It was like the 10th time he did that with his 4-5 account. Back in clan ff4 he started to insult me personally about my playstyle (you can discuss that but don't make it personal). I just banned him because i was sick of that shit and if i wouldnt do that one of my shams would have done.
Everytime he started flaming it had a racial intention which i personally will not accept in this serious way.
I dont want him to be banned from the league, because it doesnt belong to my responsibility. But speaking out accusations and lies in the chatboard as he did against me is not acceptable. If somebody gets out of line it is no problem, because it happens to everyone. But beeing a racist (i accuse him of that) i wont accept.
If you think that im a jerk and shouldn't be chief of clan fml on north then we can make a voting here and if more then 50 % don't want me to be chief i will accept that, quit the case and give the new chief my best wishes.
Final question: Should LW be chief of clan fml on north or not?
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din't read and no time since i have a game, but you should make it a poll :D
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srsly? soviet russia jokes?
to a guy that is insulting me and my country too? It's a fun thing me and tak1ngoverme are doing, soviet russia jokes and racism aren't the same thing.
You started banning me 3 weeks ago without me doing nothing.
Yesterday again, today again.
You're just a power abuser. When you are representing a clan, its not YOUR clan, you should consider whatever your doing.
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i voted for lw to squash the beef and move on. all fml/legit ffa players should have a home in clan fml and we should all respect each other. lw can be a child sometimes but i know in his heart he is a good little girl :icon_redface:
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Actually if someone really does spam the channel i'm all for kicking him, and if he does it again, ban away (for a few days)
Even more so if it's racist.
Also, if LW really IS abusing his power being a racist asshole etc etc etc... take a printscreen ^_^
That being said, I don't go in northrend so I really don't care, and din't vote
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@F10EX: FOr what happens in the channel i am responsible. And yes, i banned you 2-3 times before today and it each time it was for the same reason: Racist remarks. Its not only those jokes about russian. On time its soviets and one time i am hitler. I warned you before banning, but you kept insulting me personally. So i saw no point to not ban you.
The reason for this poll/vote is that if the fml players don't want me to be the chief, then i don't want to be it either. If they want me to be, it is a pleasure for me to do it.
And stop to play down the things you said, because it wasnt said in a funny way, the intention was to insult people personally. How many people have you insulted already for no reason?
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If FML mods don't think LW can do the job, then they should fire him. Why the hell are you asking others? It's up to the FML mods (Worp, Rena, Ugri, Darkness, PBM) to decide, it's their clan/brand name.
I have nothing against LW personally, don't care what he does on bnet, although I do feel like he has a bit of delusion of grandeur thing, kind of like SillyRabbit did.
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The reason for this poll/vote is that if the fml players don't want me to be the chief, then i don't want to be it either. If they want me to be, it is a pleasure for me to do it.
I hope that answers your doubts. But yes i understand what you say and if they (the admins) want me to leave the position then i will and accept the decision.
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Why would you care what others think? Once again, this is FML brand, only mods get to decide. Asking the public what they think is like asking the public who they want to vote for as next president of Russia. In other words, unnecessary.
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actually an angry citizen told the mayor that the current chief of police is an asshole, and wants him removed. So the chief of police is trying to figure out if the feeling is shared among all citizen or not.
If it isn't the the mayor won't have to fire him!
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Not enough information to decide. All I can see is people pointing fingers and one piece of hard evidence which clearly shows someone spamming the channel and getting banned for it. From what I see, Lightweight is doing a great job. Keep up the good work!
I've never known LW to be racist or an asshole and while its possible that he could be, my own experience speaks differently. He has done some questionable things in the past, but he always apologizes in the end.
If anyone has complaints about any FML mods/admins/chiefs/shamans please take a Screenshot. We can't really take you seriously if its just accusations. With clear evidence, we can take action on the situation and get things changed.
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seems it is a thing between u two, so why bother and make it a big drama once again. Atleast it provokes some philosophy and social-civilisation based posts :icon_wink: .
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actually an angry citizen told the mayor that the current chief of police is an asshole, and wants him removed. So the chief of police is trying to figure out if the feeling is shared among all citizen or not.
If it isn't the the mayor won't have to fire him!
No, that's not how western world works, but nice try.
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the racist accusations are for me, and Im not a racist, making soviet russia jokes is no racism.
I made some today, and I got banned 4-5 times before today just because i argued with him.
I doubt any good reasonable admin like ugri, worpex, renaud would do the same, and as i saw some other people getting banned just because sir lightweight thinks its appropriate I think he is a spot which isnt his, because he abuses hes power, something a FML admin wouldn't do.
And this screenshot is out of context as me and Russian FML player talk about this things in /w, and its for fun.
LW comes in calls me racist and bans me for the 5th time.
I didnt bring the other times before because I didn't want to make this fuss like LW just decided to do.
I know everyone hates me but I can be right, and Im sure im not alone if you put aside the fact that you hate me, you know LW is out of place.
P.S never insulted LW.
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What a gentle kitty you can be when you feel cornered. You and 21gszad are the only players that i banned from this channel so far.
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btw worp, could you unban ugri from the chatbox?
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You banned him instead of his copy that was posting? :icon_mrgreen:
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I banned both actually T_T
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I want to structurate my answer on this very messy topic :
1- Clan FML on Northrend
I remind that the idea came from W8man. The initiative from me. I did launch the process so fml members would have a shelter to be together on northrend. I was hoping to make the community grow also.
I wished W8man to lead the clan at that time but he was pretty idle here before we created the clan.
Just explaining here that as a chieftain you have power and duties also. Seeing a new talented FML member who broke no rule so far being permaban from this shelter I wanted to create, I dont really like it.
2-F10EX behavior
What I see there are poor jokes like Q do all the time, the flood is certainly annoying but banning forever? Be serious plz.
3- Your behavior
Admin role is to maintain a healthy atmosphere in the community. I dont see your answer to that flood. What was it? What tone did you used? Where you trying to make things right? Did you kick him saying "shut up asshole" spilling gazoline on fire? All these things matters and this screenshot cleverly do not show your actions.
I know your history. Some players applied and asked to alias because they think you hate them.
I know you like drama, like the pleasure you took to tease Louis when he first posted, hoping to get some action.
I know you can be a troll, pretending repeatedly to be eshan while talking to me (which I dont like).
But
I know too that you are probably one of, if not the most talented ffa player in Europe now.
I know that when you are not trolling, you are a nice guy to talk with...
So I cant really answer your poll now. Just reintegrate F10EX and try to maintain a cool and friendly atmosphere in the channel. Use of excessive force is a proof a weakness.
Someone is out of line, tell him calmly and with respect. He doesnt stop then kick with the motive. He keep doing it then ban for a few days.
But dont decide that a member of the community wont join a fml channel necause he did some jokes about soviet russia
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Btw your poll is so oriented it is very manipulative.
I can make another poll as oriented to get the results i want
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/wc3scrnshot022312210607.jpg/
See, I dont say " cry more noob" to fml members
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no need drama, it's our jokes nothing more, to f10ex not need to spam vikipedia shit in all chat, use pm.
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Why don't we just drop this and pretend it didn't happen. F10ex wasn't being racist, he was making jokes. Maybe they aren't funny, but trust me that's not racism. If he's spamming to much just ask him not to. I don't know how it first happened, but going directly to banning isn't the right answer if that's what happened. If you asked him to knock it off first, then maybe a one time ban to get the point across was correct. Either way I think we can all agree this has gotten out of hand. Your both fun to talk to when not insulting or trolling, so how about a fresh start?
Also lol at lightweight calling somone else a baby...
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Im sick of explaining everything that happened in the past. So far i haven't kicked anyone nor restricted access into the clan yet , except f10ex. I know what he wrote to me, but i am d'accord to forget what happened like you guys forgot what i did in the past. I was always acting in the interest of all players and of clan fml. If it took damage or anyone feels that i hate him i can tell you that it is not like that. There is dislike by me on some players, but that doesn't influence my decisions to be correct for the league. I like this league and the trashtalk, if it gets out of line sometimes it can happen. But theres should be boarders too (eshan). I like to be chief, but not when nobody wants me to be. I simply can't ask every admin if i can kick/ban someone from the channel each time i have to make a decision. I was responsible at this moment and i did what i thought that it was right.
To finish my thoughts i want you to know: "I did not have sexual relations with that women... i never told anybody to lie, never!" :icon_wink: We all make mistakes.
@Practice-mage: gagabubu?
And Ugri im d'accord with you in almost every point you brought up to the table.
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Cool peace is back, let's move on!
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I love it when a plan comes together.