FFA Masters League
League => Scheduling => Topic started by: FML|Renaud on March 15, 2016, 01:23:06 pm
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M19
:Kazakhstan: :ud: DV
:USA: :ra: Eshan
:Sweden: :hu: Hudkraem
:Germany: :hu: QQs
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monday-friday 16-22 CET
weekend - almost any time
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Only Saturday 20-21 CET this week
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only this week? or only saturday for this week? what about next week then
ur schedule suck, u r angela merkel or something
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free all week
saturday at 20:00 CET?
Works for me QQs and DV so far, just need to see huds schedule
Confirm guys?
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i confirm saturday 20 cet
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only this week? or only saturday for this week? what about next week then
ur schedule suck, u r angela merkel or something
What is ur problem?:D I'm busy this week and only available to play on Saturday evening, sorry about that.
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lol DV being a dick so confirm saturday evening?? QQs? and can anyone get in touch with hud??
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y saturday 20 CET is perfect. Is Hudkraem in the Skype ffa group?
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admins can someone get in touch with hudkraem? does he get subbed?
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Hello girls. I've been very inactive lately. I doubt that i can play tonight 20:00 CET
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Alright, so consider the game confirmed but with high probability of a sub
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Ehhh... I just said that i probably CAN'T play... Are you fucking high maga?
Next week works better for me
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You didnt post anything before so the guys scheduled a time convenient for them. Now, you just come and say I PROBABLY can't play at that time. The rules say that you must post your schedule within 2 days or else, you cannot expect that the rest comply with your demand. It is in their right, if they want, to play it or reschedule a new time. Best would be if you do come at 20 CET and play, based on your words that seems plausible.
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Fair enough, i get your point. I'll try to show up and if i wont, then sub me. No hard feelings
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please post your schedules. QQs said hes not available in the week but he said we can swap him for someone with a better schedule.
im free in the week, weekend gets tough but maybe late night for me works
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im also free tomorrow
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Times next week:
Wednesday 6-10 pm CET
mb Tuesday 6-9 pm CET
or weekend
Edit. tomorrow im free until 12 CET
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im free tomorrow 06:00-24:00CET
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Okay, QQs and me are both free tomorrow, 9AM CET
does that work, HUDD, DV???
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Sure, i confirm
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Eshan didnt come, Noe (same pool as Eshan) played instead of him.
I hope its ok we swaped them since we spent 2 hours yesterday trying to play and today we was waiting 1 hour.
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Its not going to be a swap because Eshan confirmed the new time and didnt come, thus he has been subbed. However, 5 pts are rewarded for him because he was present yesterday.
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No like i care but that what eshan says when he come
"I didnt confirm, i suggested, DV never responded"
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Suggesting a time means you are comfortable with it and you can check if the players are present, especially after two of them have responded positively. I honestly think Eshan confused CET with EST since 9 am CET is super late for him, but that is a mistake by his part. Still, because of yesterday, he gets 5 pts despite his absence today.
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are you FUCKING kidding
DV DIDNT CONFIRM
I suggested a time the very next day and if a player doesnt CONFIRM or respond then its assumed he didnt even see it in time obviously i went on with normal life plans
Suggesting a time that doesnt get confirmed does not mean i need to show up and does not mean i get subbed
ESPECIALLY WHEN I SPENT TWO HOURS THE PREVIOUS DAY TRYING TO MAKE THE GAME HAPPEN, HELPING QQS with patching his WC3, remaking the game TWICE for HUDD disconnecting, and calling DV MULTIPLE TIMES ON SKYPE when he abruptly left and the other players were ready to play
I spent two hours trying to coordinate it after two aborted attempts to play the game, and you SUB me out of an UNCONFIRMED game less than 12 hours later? are you SERIOUS? that doesnt make ANY sense, nor does it follow the stated rules:
"3.20a Scheduling
All players must schedule their match and have proof that the match had been agreed on. E-Mails for scheduling matches are not required, but are suggested. In addition, when agreeing on a time to play a match it would be wise to save proof of it in-case any dilemma's occur."
Either swap me into another match or replay this one because I invest thought and time into this league and that is no way to treat a player who is actively trying to schedule and going out of his way to try and make games work, while other players either dont confirm, dont post schedules, or do so last minute
AND theres another week for this round, its not like time is up or anything. absolutely ridiculous
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I was not around when this game happened. Maybe the players started it on their own. but what should i do now?
The only thing is that could help if the players of this match agree for a re-match with the original cast.
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Yes, thats what im saying - game should not count at all, it was never confirmed - the time was very late for me, but i suggested it to try and help get the game to be played, after spending two hrs the previous day failing to play the game due to every single other player in this match having some sort of issue except for me.
but since it was never confirmed, obviously i dont stay up until 4AM my time to play a game that is not confirmed.
QQs said he was free wednesday 6-10pm CET
Should we try for Wed @ 18:00 CET?
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Since i got a heart of gold i can regame this and play on the set time IF you vote trump 2016. Doubt that QQS, DV and admins will agree on this though. *Hugs Eshan*
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Since i got a heart of gold i can regame this and play on the set time IF you vote trump 2016. Doubt that QQS, DV and admins will agree on this though. *Hugs Eshan*
I'm feeling a bit guilty that eshan got supped. I'm fine with a regame, because I thought he got switched with Noexx, but I highly doubt that DV and Maga will agree to a regame.
Eshan dosn't deserve that..#hugs eshan
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If you all agree, I agree too of course. So waiting on DV.
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I dont want to play regame and I wont.
It was eshan's fault too. In second regame when Hud got fatal error we 3 agreed on continue playing, eshan said "go", QQs unpaused and eshan said he lost units to creeps and left the game.
Then we spent 2 hours trying to figure out what to do, then we played a game next day and eshan was offline not even checking thread for 2 days.
I dont want to play regame, i won already.
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DV didn’t respond to the suggestion of Eshan, then we played the game on the assumpetion that Eshan will be switched with Noex.
Dv we did the mistake, not Eshan...
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First time it was stupid bot (admins didnt check map) AND eshan who left the game when we could finish it 3 way.
Next day Maga said we can play so we played.
Its not my fault, and you cant force me to come 3rd time and play 2nd time.
I already spent 4 hours on that game. I was always ready in first day, bnet or w3arena, i was there waiting for you to deal with patches, admins to make decision (they werent around)
Second day I was ok to play or to postpone, but Maga made his decision.
I wont play regame.
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I have no idea what the rules say about this issue. It's true that DV never confirmed, but on the other hand Eshan suggested the time. I have no idea, so i'll shut my hole and let the admins decide
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Suggesting a time means you are comfortable with it and it serves as a confirmation. You, Eshan, didn't show up for the time and you got subbed, but because of the previous day drama, you were awarded 5 pts. This would be also the final decision as DV is against replaying the match. Case closed and we will update the rules with a note that suggesting a time is an auto-confirmation for that time as well.
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maga u might want to tweak that rule a little bit. suggesting a time and then not seeing any confirmations from other players, you should not have to show up and see if the other players will show up without confirming. especially when there is still plenty of time to reschedule. rather ppl should stop being lazy and start posting if they can or cannot play
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If you suggest a time and no one replies (and you don't plan on being available for that time any more), you can always just post something to indicate that you are not going to be there, like:
"Well seems like X and Y are not answering, lets try to find another time"
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Suggesting a time means that I confirmed for the game - that isnt in the rules, but that isnt even the issue
DV DIDNT CONFIRM THE GAME. How can you keep saying that I should have showed up for the time when our fourth player did not confirm, Maga? Since when do you get subbed for not showing up for an UNCONFIRMED game?
You dont have to show up for a game if the game ISNT confirmed due to another player not responding
Plus, its clear from what everyone is saying that you played the game on the assumption that I will be Swapped with Noexxx, so since that isnt happening, there should definitely be a regame.
Sorry to inconvenience you DV by trying to have a fair game, you're being a huge bad sport by resisting regame with so much time left - i havent watched the replay but i can assume DV won the game from the points, this is why he would prefer this result LOL
HUD and QQs and Maga and I are all in favor of regame
I did not break ANY rules, there is zero reason why I should be subbed out of a game that was never confirmed by another player. If you want to put that into the rules fine thats dumb, but it wasnt in the rules, tons of people have done it before, and I should not be penalized for it - especially because DV is too lazy to regame despite being very active
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And a quick answer to renaud - yes if a player doesnt respond we can say that, but thats certainly not a rule, and it was 4AM my time so I'm not staying up just to post polite messages. If a player doesnt confirm, why should I show up for the game?
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Just to reiterate the rulebook:
3.20a Scheduling
All players must schedule their match and have proof that the match had been agreed on.
The match was NOT agreed upon.
Rules, manner, common sense, and popular opinion - there should be a regame 100%. I'm shocked that this isnt a clear issue. A player didnt confirm, the game should be rescheduled - not sub the player who suggested the time in the first place. The only one against it is DV because he won, but thats a selfish reason and definitely not his decision to make.
DV said: "Its not my fault, and you cant force me to come 3rd time and play 2nd time." - actually it is your fault, for subbing me out of a game that you didnt confirm. Stop being difficult.
Also thank you HUDD and QQs for your support and clear thinking :)
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The game will not be replayed. Closed.