EM11 Result

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EM11
Nooblex
Rygorych
Redkeekee
Beljone


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Rygorych -25
Redkeekee -11
Beljone -10
Nooblex -5

[rygorych]

A pretty fun game, once the teaming rollercoster begins.

Btw, I didn't have much left in the end Redkee, I think if you didn't rush into it you could have a pretty good chance considering how good your heroes were.

And nooblex, sorry man, nothing personal, you should take it as a compliment of how truly feared you are. Btw, if redkee didn't rush you, I would, I was going gruntapult if only you weren't so far away.

[Redkeekee]

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Fun for you maybe.  If you EVER complain about cheese again after that abomination of a "strategy," I swear to God I will suicide you every game we match forever.  I kept my cool the entire time you batted me at 50 for over an hour, refusing to get frustrated about how badly my macro shortcomings were being abused, not freaking out and name calling like most would when beljone listens to you for god knows what reason, and I seriously might go insane if I think about how badly I blew the ending after all that patience.  At least I get my 11 and have a sort of ok chance at the semis.

gg.

[rygorych]

I know man, it's pretty brutal defending vs a batter who knows what he's doing, but you know what, you held out and you had this shit in the hole when you teamed me out. Your mistakes and shortcomings actually came in from this phase of the game, where I wasn't attacking you at all. You overextended trying to kill belji instead of letting me do more of the work, and then in the end I guess you believed my 33k gold bluff (I had about 10x less, with 60 food army).

I mean, I played 1-handed without a TC and 0-claw BM, the #1 part of orc cheese (hexastomp) was out of the picture... this was pretty even and you held out very well vs the brutal FS/bats harass, you made the mistake in the easy part when you had to beat my low lvl/non-cheese combo.  If you took over the remaining mines and camped me with staffs, chims and entangle, there wouldn't be much that I could do.  Instead you rushed into my towers :/ Sorry man, that's not cheese, that's just your mistake.

But with all that said, I'm ridiculously impressed by your newcomer play from last 3 rounds. I am almost inclined to think you're someone's smurf.

[FML|Renaud]

Bwhahahaha BM/SH, bats, towers and caster are crap orc units, all that matters is the TC

[Redkeekee]

Rushing towers was my only option.  Whether or not I believed you had 33k wasn't the point.  I knew I was broke with 66 food.  If I waited at all you'd have time to get 100 and even with 10 dh it wouldn't matter.  It was all moot though after I over commit on bel.  I could have had a decent shot if I'd saved enough to go 100 for our last battle.

[FML|Renaud]

he had 23k, he simply trying to make it look like he din;t hoard that much
and rushing at him was your only hope at that point

[rygorych]

No.... rewatch the replay man, Redkee was at 93 food, I was at 60, building more and I had I think 7k gold.

Anyways, doesn't matter. I don't see why you're starting up all the drama Renaud.

I'm pretty cool with everyone I played this game, I think everyone played very well, except maybe nooblex, who, as I said, should apply a bit more great knowledge from his very own guide and change up the strat/race once in awhile. This was bound to happen.

Redkee did excellent, came very close, and learned alot of lessons. I think he got it in him to be a very good player. His early game macro is fucking unpredictable, and this alone is the #1 thing that makes great FFA players.

Belji played correctly as well, being the underdog, until announcing his gold. He had this in the sack.

In fact I was the worst player this game, because I 1. killed nooblex too soon and didn't take any of his mines except 1 with 6k, 2. let belji hoard 50k thinking they wouldn't team me 3. generally played badly any time it came to a battle. Bats and wolves give 2x the normal exp, so I had to be careful not to feed, but I lost  a ton of them when I shouldn't have.

Cheers all around, maybe see you guys in the semis, Redkee, I think if you get another 10 you might make it, and if you get 25, you'll make it for sure. Belji probably needs 25 only. And nooblex already made it, heh.

[FML|Renaud]

I rewatched, you had 13k

I don't see why you're starting up all the drama Renaud

Because we are similar you douche.  You know how you keep on whining that hu is imba?  Well I whine about how orc is imba, the only diffrence between you and me is that I am right and you are wrong.

[rygorych]

the only diffrence between you and me is that I am right and you are wrong.

Well I'm not sure how I argue with this constructively.

Top orc combos are 150% the strength of top UD/NE combos. Top Hu is a bit more powerful than orc, perhaps 175%. Hello list of FML champion races (what is it... 10 to 1?)

And of course, I'm right, you're wrong.

[FML|Renaud]

List the fml finals where the orc got teamed or rushed out of the games
List the fml finals where the hu got teamed or rushed out of the games

Like you said, the best player should never win in a high level FFA game, because he will be rushed/teamed out!

[rygorych]

Fair enough, but in this case wouldn't the 2nd best be considered the "real best"?

[FML|Renaud]

Depends what you call "best"
If the best player is the one who win the game, then it's impossible to beat him! (since he defined by having won the game)

[rygorych]

I call best the race which has the most chances to win the game.

If orc gets inevitably teamed for being strongest, they are not best. You see, my goal is to find the hero combo for orcs, with which they are not perceived as strongest, and thus would not be auto teamed, but instead considered equal with UD and NE, and thus free to team the true "best" - AM MK PAL hu.

[FML|Renaud]

So by your logic, you are trying to find the best orc combo...