FFA Masters League

I am utterly opposed to Cumulo's opinion.
When you violated the rules, and try to gain unfair advantage, then there should be something you lose. In this case, your other two maps. If we only inflict penalties upon the maps that are caught, then why not everyone upload copied maps and pretend them to be their own? Because even if you get caught, there's nothing you lose.

Losing credits for other two maps is what you get.
Don't be so victim. You had it coming.

If you look at Normandy - the top right corner there are some Ice Crown Glacier doodads still on the map even though it is now a summer map! Willing to bet he forgot to remove/change them after doing the tileset swap.

Good observation, and you are probably right about the tile set swap, but I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean, he uploaded Summer Monsoon without noticing that the rules stated no remake of maps, then he followed with Mountains Altai which was another remake but this time winter. I think he didn't carefully read the whole post and just submitted all the maps he had worked/reworked. I really don't think he had genuine reasons to deceive us all.

Although the rules specified that no remake of maps would be accepted, I think it must have been necessary to specify what were going to be the consequences of such actions, such as banning all further submitted maps from that user. It seems like the punishment was based arbitrarily rather than been taken from a code of ethics of FML; again, I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished, his punishment should be those two maps taken out of the contest, but the other two although questionable about their origin, should still be given a shot.
I think we ought to look at being more specific about the rules, I know this was a fun contest to bring people to FFA and produce some quality work and it was quite successful, but laying out the repercussions of not following the rules would be very helpful, and this applies for FML seasons as well as other future events.

Ultimately is the admins' decision, but given that Mr.Light was frequently uploading maps I think he just wanted to share his work even though some of it was a remake.

This is what Mr.Light said

"However, this is 3 different maps, despite the fact that, the maps was based on Blizzard´s Maps. It is against the rules of the competition? OK, no problem.
That's just, I do not understand how this applies to Normandy and Fjord?"


In that statement, he was talking as if Normandy is a wholly brand new map, not Blizzard based.
And it turned out that, even Normandy is a copied blizzard map.
http://blog.naver.com/blast870/220935583397

If he simply didn't notice the rules and bore no intention to deceive us,
he should have told us that Normandy was also a blizzard based map when his two earlier maps got caught.
However, He chose to ridicule us til the end.


Also, if we trusted him one more time on his third submission, Normandy,
then we will have to reset the poll even again as it revealed to be fake.

I don´t read a rules at all.!! They weren´t interested for me and steel not interested so far.
I didn´t need a 50$, don`t need it right now, and I will not need it in the future.
I just gave you all what I was working.

What interests me, and that is important for me?
I would like to see a people, who playing the Maps and enjoyed the game.
  Regardless:
1) on the basis of which it is made.
2) what it has, supposedly, recalls.
3) the will of the third persons.

Fjord and Normandy are original maps. Silverpine Forest and Icecrown don´t have them any relationship. "3-Maps" means: Retvisan,Altay and mini-Ragnarok(the last map was not in competition, it was for example), but all 3 are rework of Blizzard. But it does not matter any more. =))

Looks like you are quite in a rage Mr.Light.
Of the picture below,

http://s014.radikal.ru/i327/1702/85/0ab8bb686755t.jpg

The stairs were added later when I got feedback from tyrant66.
If you look at the original version, the stairs do not exist.
Also the turtles were added later, as in the original version the creeps were sea giants.

Other pictures you compared, they are all just bullshit 😊
As for Purity, starting location and everything just different, except that it's a 4player Lordaeron winter map.

Also, the four corners area, the size and everything different except that starting locations are at the corner side and they both Lordaeron summer.


But look at your maps. They are nothing but just blizzards.
Go home and su** your own d***!

This is the picture of Lost in Paradise original version.
http://blog.naver.com/blast870/220936119756


Like I said, no stairs and see giants with Lab, which makes  your assumption 100% false.

Map Download Link http://ffamasters.net/index.php?topic=2560.225

"You're an amateur"




Also, here I wrote "WHY MY MAPS ARE MY OWN"
http://blog.naver.com/blast870/220936182824

Love some drama from time to time.

Now, let me explain:
modifying an already existing blizzard map is an easy task, that usually takes little time and not much effort; although the idea could make the map different and completely change the gameplay, because of it being something that can be easily done by anyone there can't be any attribution of credit for this kind of work.
Taking inspiration from an existimg map can also be not acceptable for a contest, in the case in which the new map, instead of being a new work or rework made from some features of another map taken as inspiration, becomes just a freehand copy of the original.

This being considered, note that although Mr.LighTs maps have been removed from the contest, an admin could consider in the future adding a map with the same features of one of his disqualified maps(the ones coming from a modified blizzard map), without any credit being due (to Mr.LighTs, the said ipothetical admin or any other who made such a map).

All in all, after expressing my opinion, I think you two are taking this way too seriously, and should continue your discussion via PM, as this seems to have become something more personal than related to the contest,
although I'll admit it is fun to read.

(sorry for my english, if anything is unclear please ask)