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Rules and Scoring System Updates
« on: October 27, 2016, 08:32:49 pm »
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We want to inform everyone of a few rule changes that will go into effect with the start of the upcoming season related to gaming platform, scheduling, and a new scoring system. The official rulebook has been updated to reflect these changes and can be found here.

  • Platform: the required platform is now w3arena (http://tft.w3arena.net/). Games can still be played on other platforms if all players agree
  • Scheduling: players lose their right to schedule a match if they don't post in the scheduling thread within 48 hours of the posting of the round (previously, this period was 3 days). If you know you will be without internet access for more than 2 days around the start of a round, contact an admin.
  • Scoring: in order to promote more active games as well as reduce the drawback of placing 4th, we are moving to the following system
    • 20 points - 1st (winner)
    • 12 points - 2nd (by game score)
    • 12 points - 3rd (by game score)
    • 10 points - 4th (by game score)
    • The player with the highest game score will get an additional +2 points, regardless if they won the game or not.

Please note that with all rule changes, admins reserve the right to undo them or make further modifications if we find them to be ineffective.

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2016, 09:14:18 pm »
1) Platform: yes since it has proxy
2) Scheduling: yes because responsible players should decide when the games are played
3) Scoring: really?

Giving 10 pts to 4th placei is such a terrible idea, quite frankly I don't know why you guys changed the scoring system so much, seriously, tell me what was wrong with the previous format. The previous format encouraged people to play for win more than anything, or even not to finish 4th at all since it only gave 5 points. The previous system basically weeded out all the players who clearly didn't play smart enough to make it to the play offs and eventually finals, with this new system is like grouping all the 4th, 3rd and 2nd places in one big clump.

Basically what this format does, assuming four games are played, is give 40 points to 4th place while 2nd and 3rd get 48 points rofl. The difference between a four way and a three way in FFA is immense and so should be the scoring. Seriously, you do not need to make these types of drastic changes to claim "we are innovating" or "moving out of an old paradigm" what you need is to stick with what works and make little tinkering if needed to accommodate different needs. I just don't think this new scoring really reflects the nature of FFA; hell even 1st place to 3rd place are basically very close in points. I don't know man, if anything it seems that it will encourage hoarding and passiveness rather than more active games.

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2016, 10:01:20 pm »
Giving 10 pts to 4th placei is such a terrible idea, quite frankly I don't know why you guys changed the scoring system so much, seriously, tell me what was wrong with the previous format. The previous format encouraged people to play for win more than anything, or even not to finish 4th at all since it only gave 5 points. The previous system basically weeded out all the players who clearly didn't play smart enough to make it to the play offs and eventually finals, with this new system is like grouping all the 4th, 3rd and 2nd places in one big clump.
A you sure old system play for win !? oldy system play for: not die first ! not get 5 score.
New system, like as you say 4th,3rd,2nd place in one big clump: more motivated play for win cuz too much players will have equal points. But only winners who will win game - will take place in the next round.
Imho this system better.

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2016, 10:11:24 pm »
No, when the reward (+25 pts) outweights 2nd and 3rd place by +15 pts then you really play for win. If you give literally the same amoun of points for 4th to 2nd place, then you are encouraging players to be indiferent and that if you put the extra effort to finish 1st and win the game, you'll only get 8 pts rather than +15 like we are used to.
It just sucks really, ask any champion who has a clue what FFA is all about and will demand to go back to old format.

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2016, 10:14:35 pm »
Cumulo in 23 season, player - TOCKA_3EJIEHA9I not played two rounds. Just win 1 round of 3, and going round 4. Nice system "play for win", no competition. If you win just one game - 25 points = guarnted round 4.
Now players will be have equal points - this more motivate play for wins

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2016, 10:37:22 pm »
1 win + 5 points + other points can get u in the play offs, what's wrong with that? Those who made it to round four had the correct amount of points. Giving almost same amount of points to 4th,3rd and 2nd just seems out of this world.

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 11:11:14 pm »
We wanted to shake things up. We've used the previous scoring system for 20 seasons, its time to try something new. There are some glaring issues which we wanted to try and address with a new scoring system. Depending on how it goes, this may very well just be a one season thing.

The standings should feel closer this season and getting last place in a match shouldn't be as catastrophic as it previously was. We are also hoping that aggression is rewarded more with this change.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 11:16:24 pm by FML|WorpeX »

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2016, 11:24:05 pm »
well, it seems that it's here to stay, but we'll see how the 1st round goes :)

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2016, 04:04:28 am »
so long my sweet point system :'(

Offline Tleilaxu

Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2016, 05:28:05 am »
Great news. All this "muh play for win" is a bunch of bull crap. You still have to play for win, you just don't get punished if you don't want to play a 4 hour game. Beside, the reduced points for winning reduces the reward of lucky free wins and reduces the penalty for getting 4th due to unlucky spawn.

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2016, 07:02:19 am »
i like the point system if i suicide someone in a 3way now it doesnt hurt as much pointwise

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2016, 07:46:15 am »
New point system is worth a try for sure.  Like Worpex said, been doing the same thing for 20 seasons so switching it up will be interesting.  What I like is that the standings will be tight, but you will still need consistent good finishes to get ahead, but at the same time one bad game won't hurt you as much.  Tiebreakers are going to be crazy though

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2016, 09:34:11 am »
nice change guys  :orc:

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Re: Rules and Scoring System Updates
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2016, 11:41:56 am »
Dont like the new score system