FFA Masters League
General => News => Topic started by: FML|Mog on December 10, 2017, 08:25:04 pm
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2/3rds of the way through the season! Everyone still has a shot at the postseason, but if you find yourself in the middle of the pack or lower...its do or die time to make up those points!
Before we go on, we need to add on to rule 6.50 unsportsmanlike conduct.
6.50 Unsportsmanlike Conduct
In order to secure a well regulated and pleasant course of game, it is inevitable that all players act in a sportsmanlike and fair way. This may include, but is not limited to: Spamming during a game, kicking players from the server or match, not playing for the win, artificially inflating end-game score or faking an account without revealing yourself. Breach of this rule can include penalty points or removal from the league and is considered on a case-by-case bases.
Due to events in m30, we need to add that abusing an in game bug to spike end game point total does fall under unsportsmanlike conduct. In m30, Renaud abused a bug where mounting and unmounting hippo riders added to his units trained total, propelling him to top score due to him doing this trick for roughly one hour, massively increasing his end game unit score. We lowered him to 12 points instead of 14, since he would have finished 3rd without his massively increased unit score. In the future, we will not tolerate these type of bug abused, and players may be penalized if caught abusing them. This is up to admin discretion, as is all current unsportsmanlike conduct rulings.
That is all! Now for the next round of matches. We have:
Rage Critters vs Fetta Inc. vs Zig Zag ZIGGURAT! vs Church of Renaud
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Bad Manneroths vs Free Agent Squad vs Suicide Squad vs Free Ena
The maps are:
:P: Purity (Download (https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/purity.291405/))
:LT: Lost temple -FML *the map preview doesn't show, but the fml version has 2 taverns, and the corner islands have ramps extending behind the goblin labs so there is ground access, similar to twisted meadows fml*
:DI: Dragon island (Download (http://www.epicwar.com/maps/268575/))
:BG: Battleground
As always, captains have 48 hours to submit lineups.
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Can we have the real map pool please jokes aren't funny fml serious busy Moogle!!!
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LOL this map pool :icon_lol:
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There's 2 aggressive small maps, 1 large macro map, and 1 mid size map. 2 classic and 2 custom. Fairly balanced..
.whats the problem? Other than "Oh I don't play enough to practice these maps." Well I guess you better start now then ;)
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there should be a small preview of Purity :icon_cry:
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mog told me every round has 2 4s maps 1 6s map and 1 8s map..... i feel betrayed and im not certain if my relationship to mog that was built on trust until today will recover from this treason he comitted
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Is it Battleground LV or classic? :icon_lol:
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There is a small preview of Purity, Mog just didn't bother to look for it. :D
mog told me every round has 2 4s maps 1 6s map and 1 8s map..... i feel betrayed and im not certain if my relationship to mog that was built on trust until today will recover from this treason he comitted
I talked him out of having 3 custom maps in 1 round. Battleground is pretty small for an 8 player map. Don't blame Mog for that, blame me. :icon_lol:
Is it Battleground LV or classic? :icon_lol:
I refuse to acknowledge the existence of LV maps. Its classic Battleground!
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Where is the best maps? Hurricane isle???
And almost forgot about twilight!!!
Im excited for round 6 lol
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Actually I would love to see Hurricane Isle in round 6, together with 3 normal maps. I'm pretty sure we'd find 1 volunteer in every team to play Hurricane :D
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Pls dont use Hurricane. I want to stay the only winner on this map since I dont know when.
2/2 on it, just get over it noobs
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Man the map pool this round 😭😭😭
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Where's dust storm :(
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Based on these comments you guys are really going to hate round 6 LOL
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Based on these comments you guys are really going to hate round 6 LOL
nah, Equalrium will save the day, same way Southpark saves the day on Christmas eve :icon_wink: :ra:
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Based on these comments you guys are really going to hate round 6 LOL
nah, Equalrium will save the day, same way Southpark saves the day on Christmas eve :icon_wink: :ra:
Ya he said twilight and equal on round 6. The 2 best maps ever for FFA besides hurricane of course. Round 6 will be the best.
Best maps:
Hurricane
Equalriam
Twilight
Gold rush
Market
Silverpine
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Incom
Based on these comments you guys are really going to hate round 6 LOL
nah, Equalrium will save the day, same way Southpark saves the day on Christmas eve :icon_wink: :ra:
Ya he said twilight and equal on round 6. The 2 best maps ever for FFA besides hurricane of course. Round 6 will be the best.
Best maps:
Hurricane
Equalriam
Twilight
Gold rush
Market
Silverpine
Incomplete list. No Cozy Fuckin Sands.
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Let's go for
Hurricane Isle
Twelve Renauds
Divide and Conquer
Ragnarok
Edit: Alternatively Turtle Rock Crazy, which is also a gem
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R6 will be MD 1v1, platform escape, kiteas micro arena, and banjoball. Any tie breakers at end of season will be decided by uther party
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R6 will be MD 1v1, platform escape, kiteas micro arena, and banjoball. Any tie breakers at end of season will be decided by uther party
so basically TBR2 all over again
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This FML season was only conducted to ultimately reveal maphackers with banjoball in round 6
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R6 will be MD 1v1, platform escape, kiteas micro arena, and banjoball. Any tie breakers at end of season will be decided by uther party
No uther party?? Time to riot!
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What's cozy sands wreck? Did you get wrecked on it?
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What's cozy sands wreck? Did you get wrecked on it?
Winner of the map making contest we had. It won... but in the end players didn't really like the map much. haha I think the true winner of the contest was Dragon Island as its gonna be a mainstay of FML for a long time. The others will be in and out.
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Ahh I wanna see it some time. If wreck HATES it, I'll prolly like it....
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What's cozy sands wreck? Did you get wrecked on it?
Winner of the map making contest we had. It won... but in the end players didn't really like the map much. haha I think the true winner of the contest was Dragon Island as its gonna be a mainstay of FML for a long time. The others will be in and out.
I heard rumors that the ameba looking map beat my Meson :icon_sad:
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What's cozy sands wreck? Did you get wrecked on it?
Winner of the map making contest we had. It won... but in the end players didn't really like the map much. haha I think the true winner of the contest was Dragon Island as its gonna be a mainstay of FML for a long time. The others will be in and out.
I heard rumors that the ameba looking map beat my Meson :icon_sad:
If only you knew Mr. 45 and actually made the changes I suggested. You would have won!
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What's cozy sands wreck? Did you get wrecked on it?
Winner of the map making contest we had. It won... but in the end players didn't really like the map much. haha I think the true winner of the contest was Dragon Island as its gonna be a mainstay of FML for a long time. The others will be in and out.
I heard rumors that the ameba looking map beat my Meson :icon_sad:
If only you knew Mr. 45 and actually made the changes I suggested. You would have won!
Imo, Cozy Sands deserved to win, the only problem I have with it is the pathing for ground units, it really sucks and some of the cliffs/ramps makes it impossible to play with large armies of ground. Imo it favors elfs and undeads more tha any other race.
But the aesthetics of the map > its flaws on other issues.
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Who cares about aesthetics if the map sucks for ffa
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Who cares about aesthetics if the map sucks for ffa
Apparently, the judges from the contest did because the map won. Also, the map doesn't really suck; it just looks like a labyrithm with narrow paths, but other than that it's gorgeous.
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Who cares about aesthetics if the map sucks for ffa
Apparently, the judges from the contest did because the map won. Also, the map doesn't really suck; it just looks like a labyrithm with narrow paths, but other than that it's gorgeous.
Should host it for me sometime. I wanna see it, but either way equalriam is one of the best I've ever played on.
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Again, who cares if its gorgeous when its an unbalanced map? Any map that has has two expos on one side is imbalanced. It means your 1v1 opponent will have access to both of your expos, while his will be safely on the other side of the map. It gives one player a huge advantage over the other, simply based on map positioning. A map that makes 2 players start with a disadvantage over the other two is an imbalanced and unplayable map. Meson de taberna does this too, unless players all coordinate and decide to expo clock and counterclock.
Maps like twisted meadows have one expo that is close to your enemy, but it compensates by having an island expo behind your base.
Cozy fuckin sands is the reason noexxx lost to laxu in 1v1 lol. If that doesnt prove imbalance then idk what does
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Again, who cares if its gorgeous when its an unbalanced map? Any map that has has two expos on one side is imbalanced. It means your 1v1 opponent will have access to both of your expos, while his will be safely on the other side of the map. It gives one player a huge advantage over the other, simply based on map positioning. A map that makes 2 players start with a disadvantage over the other two is an imbalanced and unplayable map. Meson de taberna does this too, unless players all coordinate and decide to expo clock and counterclock.
Maps like twisted meadows have one expo that is close to your enemy, but it compensates by having an island expo behind your base.
Cozy fuckin sands is the reason noexxx lost to laxu in 1v1 lol. If that doesnt prove imbalance then idk what does
The map contest had its flaws, no doubt about that. However, Cozy was the best map submitted based on the rules and scoring system which was put in place. If we do another contest, I would absolutely do the scoring and judging a little bit differently.
That said, from all the finalist maps, I think even with a revised scoring system Cozy would have still been a top 3 map. Every map submitted was flawed in some way. Looking back almost a year later, only one map came out of the contest with a really good reputation, Dragon Island. Most of the other maps are very polarizing with opinions on the map.
So like I said, looking back at the contest a year later if I had to pick the top 3 now, it'd be Dragon Island, Neon City and Cozy Fucking Sands. The rest of the maps are all flawed in a similar way to Cozy but don't have the aesthetics.
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Yeah the map contest was a great idea and really invited creativity from the community which led to new maps. Idk what the criteria was, but doesnt matter anymore who won, it matters which maps actually work.
interms of FFA usage, cozy sands is on duststorm level imo. Even if its rly pretty
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Why don't we have another one? Me and Eshan can be the judges.
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Yeah the map contest was a great idea and really invited creativity from the community which led to new maps. Idk what the criteria was, but doesnt matter anymore who won, it matters which maps actually work.
interms of FFA usage, cozy sands is on duststorm level imo. Even if its rly pretty
DUSTSTORM LEVEL?! you must be out of your mind. I think the top 3 maps to come from the map contest are dragon island, greenville woods, and purity. All 3 of cumulo's maps are pretty good too, and I think are balanced enough for ffa. Cozy Sands needs some major terrain working, but you could always initiate the action first so you are fighting toward another player's expo. It's definitely far > duststorm. Probably more like similar level as Lost Temple.
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By the way, I was just judge in the Back2Warcraft and Hive Workshop map contest and got some new contacts. FML might be able to benefit from that in 2018.
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Again, who cares if its gorgeous when its an unbalanced map? Any map that has has two expos on one side is imbalanced. It means your 1v1 opponent will have access to both of your expos, while his will be safely on the other side of the map. It gives one player a huge advantage over the other, simply based on map positioning. A map that makes 2 players start with a disadvantage over the other two is an imbalanced and unplayable map. Meson de taberna does this too, unless players all coordinate and decide to expo clock and counterclock.
Maps like twisted meadows have one expo that is close to your enemy, but it compensates by having an island expo behind your base.
Cozy fuckin sands is the reason noexxx lost to laxu in 1v1 lol. If that doesnt prove imbalance then idk what does
I have to agree here with Eshan. Cozy fucking Sand may look good, but it's not a good map to play on it. We tested it quite often before the final fml game and most of the times( 80-90 %) won the guy next to the opponent mines. I don't know why people still trying to defend this map. It's not a good ffa map. We have a lot more better maps from that Contest like Dragon Island, Neon City, Purity, even Boom town is played sometimes and it's fun as well. I'm also pretty sure we never hosted fucking sand once for a inhouse after the final game.
I think also that Purity is quite underrated, it's actually a nice FFA map.
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Yeah the map contest was a great idea and really invited creativity from the community which led to new maps. Idk what the criteria was, but doesnt matter anymore who won, it matters which maps actually work.
interms of FFA usage, cozy sands is on duststorm level imo. Even if its rly pretty
DUSTSTORM LEVEL?! you must be out of your mind. I think the top 3 maps to come from the map contest are dragon island, greenville woods, and purity. All 3 of cumulo's maps are pretty good too, and I think are balanced enough for ffa. Cozy Sands needs some major terrain working, but you could always initiate the action first so you are fighting toward another player's expo. It's definitely far > duststorm. Probably more like similar level as Lost Temple.
I agree with the 2 of your top 3 maps. Cozzy Sands definitely deserved to win, but Greenville Woods and Purity were really good as well. I think my favorite map of all the submissions was Greenville woods because the area of the center looked very well built and I used the same idea of bences in the center of the map for Neon City.