FFA Masters League
General => News => Topic started by: FML|Mog on July 02, 2017, 01:02:01 am
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Here we are! After a grueling season filled with drama, passion, heartbreak, and perseverance; we've reached the final stage: The grand finals. On FFA's largest, and most prestigious stage, we have four warriors ready to fight for the honor of making their mark on FML, by putting their name in the hallowed FML hall of fame. I'm sure by now we are all familiar with these four players--whether you love them, revere them, or hate them; they are all deserving of their spot here in this grand final.
For my own personal pleasure I have acted as the designated Sorting Hat and divided these players up between the 4 Hogwarts Houses. So let's meet the players:
:USA: :ne: Wrecktify
Hogwarts House: Gryffindor - Courageous, bold, and a bit reckless.
Finishing in 1st place this season and earning a direct seed into these finals we have our well established Night Elf player Wrecktify. A well known face (and voice) in this community, Wrecktify keeps putting up solid results after all this time. We can definitely dub him the veteran of this group, having already won three FML titles in the past; the first dating all the way back to season 6. Despite playing a consistently predictable style, Wrecktify is still an opponent many fear, due to his overall solid micro, macro, and game sense. Throw in just enough mental instability to suicide you at any given moment, and it is no wonder many tread carefully when involved in the same game as Wrecktify. No stranger to the finals, Wrecktify will be hoping his experience will be enough to put his name in the history books as the only 4x FML champ in the long history of the league.
:Switzerland: :hu: Noexxx
Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw - Wise, creative, and original.
Finishing 2nd in the standings this season we have our Human player Noexxx. The current reigning FML champion, Noexxx will be looking to repeat his Season 24 success, and become the first player in over a decade to win back to back FML titles. No one has achieved such a feat since the early days, back when Target won seasons 2 and 3. Despite having a no show in week 2, Noexxx found a way directly to the finals by winning all 3 of the matches he showed up for. Widely considered the strongest :hu: player of the season, there are still many questions Noexxx must answer if he hopes to repeat as FML champion. Will his beloved Panda burn through the opposition? Will he use mechanical critters to create a new meta creeproute? And just how many towers exactly will he build? Only time holds the key to unlocking these answers; for now, we the fans wait with bated breath.
:Sweden: :ra: FML|Junkerzam
Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff - Trustworthy, kind, and just.
Our final direct seed into the finals is the lone torch bearer for the admin team. Well, supposedly he is on the admin team, but looking around it is hard to see any work done by him :icon_lol:. As the creator of the first ever randomized match making system used this season, many find themselves asking the question, was the system rigged? We may never know. However, after watching Junkerzam's matches, the doubt will be dispelled from our minds by his smart and crisp play. Decisive decision making and subtle manipulation, paired with his well above average micro and macro make Junkerzam a very dangerous player indeed. Good with all four races, preparing to play against Junkerzam will be challenging for our other competitors. Will Junkerzam be able to leverage this racial diversity into an advantage? Or will the burden of preparing for a match of this magnitude with four different races be too much for him to carry? One thing we know for certain; Junkerzam would be a much deserving new entry into the FML hall of fame should things fall in his favor.
:Denmark: :ud: Tleilaxu
Hogwarts House: Slytherin - Cunning, resourceful, and proud.
Our final competitor has crawled through the bloody gauntlet of the semi finals, and is looking to prove to his critics that he is indeed deserving of a first ever FML title. Often underestimated, Tleilaxu is widely considered to have more bark than bite. However, this season he has proven he can not only hang with the best--he can defeat them. A necrowagon specialist, Tleilaxu is not only dangerous in the early game, but also in the late game, where he has shown countless times the ability to cleverly slither his way through tight situations in order to come out on top. This self proclaimed Anti-hero's journey has not been an easy one, battling through many FML seasons the resilience and growth Tleilaxu has shown can not be understated. Will it all culminate in a highly coveted FML crown? This dark horse certainly hopes so.
GRAND FINALS MAP: COZY SANDS! :CS:
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hey guys, I'm going to Mexico from the 8th of july to the 29th of july but I can be there anytime until the 8, just warn me in advance, could an admin open scheduling thread please ? :D
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All this nice HP related finals introduction and then itīs COZY SANDS in the end which totally killed the hype, this map in a rather classic fml season? COME ON :D
But iīll wait for the game and then criticize some more, maybe :P.
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ALmost glad I didnt make it through looking at the map choice
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Lots of hate already for the map! I mean, to be fair, it won the map contest and it was pretty clear the top maps were going to be making an appearance during the season. I would have thought it would be easy to assume this would be the finals map since it won the contest and hadn't made an appearance yet!
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wtf? the map is beautiful, it looks as legit as a blizzard map. No idea why these guys bashing on the map as final choice since everyone saw it come miles away...
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Dear all,
Fuck this map. Sideways. A 25th anniversary is likely to never be passed in terms of grandness, as we will likely not make it to season 50. To me, playing some crappy 4 player map in the finals is a big fuck you to the community and the players. Especially me, since recent history generally gives top scorer the ability to choose the map. What should the map be? Well, I've only been here like 17 seasons, but it should either be whatever map was the season one finals map (Deadlock I think? Also widely considered a balanced map with plenty of supporting gameplay evidence) or I should get the pick, as has become custom as of late.
No, we get Cozy fucking sands.
"Gee Wreck, why are you so bent out of shape about this map?"
Well thank you for asking, random stranger. Well, lets start with the obvious. It's absolute shit for myself and Laxu, as its not a macro map. Its also a wide open map, which favors Orc / HU. It has negligible gameplay in the league, and testing a map in the fucking grand finals is a joke. And it was picked by a bunch of admins who combined have less activity than anyone in the match. In short, shitty new map picked by people barely involved with league.
I said that Noexxx would win last week in my prediction of the game, prior to learning this balls map choice, and I stick with that. He will likely rush myself or Laxu, Junkerzam will retarded rush the other person, then Noexxx cleans up. Having watched all of Noexxx's recent 4 player map matches thats how they typically play out, and good on him that he gets a free win of this map of supreme faggotrocity. Fuck everyone, /mic drop.
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I agree the map is quite shit. Yes it might look nice, but its about the gameplay not the looks. And also this is actually a very bad orc map too in my opinion. Look at the item drops. and the creeping is terrible for orc in general.
A gloves of haste drops at the LAB which is like an orange almost red camp which requires 2-3 wyvern and sh hexing + bm 3. I would expect something like sanctuary, market or deadlock for a classic final
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By the way I couldn't help but notice that the players were all perfect matches for the Hogwarts house descriptions. All of them have different personalties that match their house... It's honestly too perfect. Like what if SHaved or I had won?
I'm starting to think FML rigged the season just to get this write up
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Sweet you lost, get over it. Stop trash talking about the work other people put a lot of effort into it. If the map has certain characteristics that yo do not like, then adapt your strategies to the map instead of bitching about it, specially when you are not even going to play in.
Now as for wreck, it's hard to tell whether he's being honest or just trolling ...
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Sweet you lost, get over it. Stop trash talking about the work other people put a lot of effort into it. If the map has certain characteristics that yo do not like, then adapt your strategies to the map instead of bitching about it, specially when you are not even going to play in.
Now as for wreck, it's hard to tell whether he's being honest or just trolling ...
Sweet is allowed to think a shit maps shit. Just because you feel solidarity with a fellow map maker doesnt negate that, or negate our appreciation someone made a new map. The same way I think your Mason De La Casa map is good, I wouldnt put in as teh finals map as its hardly finished. If you disagree with someone, make counter arguments. Ad hominem attacks are admitting you dont have an argument to begin with.
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I always appreciate the effort and work, and I think it's a well made map - visually speaking. But as far as balance is concerned it's complete crap in my opinion and it doesn't seem to cater for very interesting matches.
In fact I sent this guy my suggestions for changes in an email a while ago. So I am making an effort to make maps better rather just shitting on them because I'm salty.
I'm over that I lost, but I want to watch a nice final game as an observer and I don't think this map will provide that. Sorry if I came out too direct against the map.
I also appreciate your maps, Neon City is a good map, and Meson would be good if you changed/finished it like Wrecktify touched on.
I hope this clears up things.
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I did make one counter argument, " If the map has certain characteristics that yo do not like, then adapt your strategies to the map instead of bitching about it".
Thanks for clarifying things sweet, I do appreciate your feedback since it's crucial to have members providing insightful suggestions, but straight up calling something "shit", just not the way to go bro.
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By the way I couldn't help but notice that the players were all perfect matches for the Hogwarts house descriptions. All of them have different personalties that match their house... It's honestly too perfect. Like what if SHaved or I had won?
I'm starting to think FML rigged the season just to get this write up
I acruelly added the hogwarts part last, because it fit really well. I would have just left it out if it didn't work out that way. But it was too perfect with all 4 players fitting very well into their respective houses (in my opinion).
As for the map, we've had so many finals on maps the classic ffa maps: market square, twilight ruins, and deadlock. Usually, they are very stale and last 3+ hours because the stakes are high and there is a big punishment to rushing someone since the other players can hoard so much gold. Or, players could be in a very unfavorable position due to a surround, or double surround. I don't mind negative feedback about the map choice, but it was thought out, and worked out especially well with the recent map making competition , which breathed new life into our little community by injecting different and unique maps that have not been played 10000 times. Also, last season there was a 4 player map as well, and the game was very fair, compettive, and entertaining.
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Great writeup! Agree with the map thing, though. Gives a very "experimental" flavour to the final. Just want to see the best players duke it out on a standard FFA map, that they are all familiar with.
It would've been plausible to me to use the map contest winner in the very first round, as a nice way to utilize the momentum from the map contest in order to transition into the new season. Imo not the right call to be conservative and "save" it for later on.
P.S.: Using the plural "finals" instead of "final" always confuses me...
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Awesome write-up mog!
As for the map, wreck mentioned something about "testing"it in the finals which is untrue. It has been through a ton of testing prior to this on the bot and it was featured in TBR. It's well past the testing phase. Games have been great on the map and I'm looking forward to the finals!
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we played couple of inhouse games on that map yesterday....they were all shit (i was obs not player) since u stubborn admins wont switch the map maybe make some changes? increase gold amount in goldmines or add another goldmine? we wanna see big 100 food fights in final and not 4 morons sitting in their bases afraid of losing a single unit since they have no gold to get it back (remember 4 hour semi final on emerald shores) (now remember playffacup final on market square) one of them has 20k views on youtube the other one isnt even on youtube i think. #evidence #adminsarelazy #themapsucks #mogisgay
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*dislike*
1) Nitpicking: wreck mentioned something about "testing"
2) Exaggeration: has been through a ton of testing
3) Stubborn: I'm looking forward to the finals!
I think the biggest problem here is that the players have very little experience on these new maps. There is a HUGE difference between a map that someone has played and observed >1000x in comparison to a map that was played <5x and observed 0x.
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disagree
i wouldnt like finals on meadows deathrose etc. also 4s maps arent finals material. goldrush would be cool for finals but sucks in r1 or quali for example.
i wouldnt mind playing deathrose in r1 and goldrush in finals. but i wouldnt like it the other way around. final should be a 3 hour game of 4 tryhards. to make these 3 hours interesting map needs to be big and have a lot of gold. we wanna see people hiding a single worker and rebuilding a completly new base. we wanna see laxu charming a worker going dual race etc etc. on a 4s map you lose one 100 food fight u dead. u cant hide u have no ressources to rebuild etc etc.
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*dislike*
1) Nitpicking: wreck mentioned something about "testing"
2) Exaggeration: has been through a ton of testing
3) Stubborn: I'm looking forward to the finals!
I think the biggest problem here is that the players have very little experience on these new maps. There is a HUGE difference between a map that someone has played and observed >1000x in comparison to a map that was played <5x and observed 0x.
Another common losing argument technique. Refute one facet of an argument and claim your point is made. Of course this doesn't change the fact that that 'a ton' is completely subjective an utter nonsense , as the testing period was 1 month between seasons.
I vote the admins, who (not counting games they played in), attended maybe 1/5h of games, similarly stay out of the map selection process.
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I wouldn't mind playing on Twisted Meadows actually.
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Another common losing argument technique. Refute one facet of an argument and claim your point is made. Of course this doesn't change the fact that that 'a ton' is completely subjective an utter nonsense , as the testing period was 1 month between seasons.
I vote the admins, who (not counting games they played in), attended maybe 1/5h of games, similarly stay out of the map selection process.
And you weren't active during the map making contest, which was 3 months long, not 1. The map was on the bot for a long time and received many updates during the process.
Here is the TBR Match on Cozy, which was an intense game.
On that note, we will discuss making changes to the map or switching to something else internally.
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Currently the most interesting 4 player map in the rotation is Anarchy Castle, though what a shit finals map that would be also. Considering how good you are at making maps worpexe I'd think your recognize that's Sands is basically an incomplete, less interesting Fountain of Manipulation (3rd best 4 man map, also player made I think)
I'll save more long winded rants for tonight since typing on phones suck.
Edit: since everyone is so emo lately I appreciate new maps, I don't appreciate unfinished work as the Grand Final (singular ) match. Either round 1 or round 4 should have had the top 3 maps featured in order to feature them. Force feeding it for finals feels damn near punitive.
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lol@unfinished work :icon_lol:
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Cozy is far more finished than Harvest will ever be. lol Harvest, in my opinion, is extremely incomplete. I don't see how Cozy can be considered incomplete though. Maybe you think its not complete cause it needs more testing? But... every map could use more testing. I just uploaded a new version of Harvest cause I found bugs and we even play on updated Blizzard maps here in FML.
I can agree that Cozy could use more gold and the creeps at the Lab could be adjusted. There were plans to change the Lab before TBR but I made the decision to keep it as is after an extended testing session with rhythmt. We may make some changes to these two things before the finals - however - since we're having issues with our bot provider, I can't guarantee any changes will make it to the bot in time for the match.
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First of all amazing write up by Mog. Great descriptions for all the players, and they really do fit the Hogwarts houses perfectly.
Secondly - if i were playing in this game I would be upset about the map choice too - maybe atleast give players the options to choose, just like in the normal rounds
I've personally never played cozy sands (and thats one big reason why i would be upset, its a new map, and i would prefer to play on a classic map, because that way i dont have to do hours and hours of map testing and then see someone pull out some map trick ive never seen before to win the game. it should be based on ffa skill, not map skill on a new map.) it might have been a better showcase for the new map to put it as the semi-final map.
i also personally think that smaller 4way maps aren't ideal for high-stakes ffa's. they result in lots of rushing and chaotic attacks - which isn't always the best showcase for the all-around skills of our all-star finals cast.
anyway gl hf to all, even you laxu. you may have gotten free wins all season, but you played well in semis!
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Tleilaxu, I've come to bargain
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wat
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Eshan manipping! This is the map he won on during the TBR!!!!!
At least it might be? I'm not really sure anymore, and it's a pain to look back since everyone was playing under AKA ^_^
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Salazar Slytherin would be proud :-)
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Eshan manipping! This is the map he won on during the TBR!!!!!
At least it might be? I'm not really sure anymore, and it's a pain to look back since everyone was playing under AKA ^_^
I'm like 99% sure that eshan played on meson de la taberna. Fetta actually won on this map in TBR
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lol? people so quick to call manip on me - i've never played this map.
and soso i'm a ravenclaw :)
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noex up
laxu noob get cancer die retard
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Sweet bears a striking resemblance to Ena. Ena and Sweet both have tempers. They both play orc. Sweet is Ena. Ena is Sweet. Same player 2x infiltrating the league! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! BAN EVERYONE! WINTER IS COMING!
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/b8/10/57/b81057729fe23380f811c3efd8217b9f.jpg)
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lol? people so quick to call manip on me - i've never played this map.
and soso i'm a ravenclaw :)
Yes and I am Santa Claus :D
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After digging and searching for the announcement... fetta_ook was the raven claw member for cozy sand...
fetta = eshan confirmed
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After digging and searching for the announcement... fetta_ook was the raven claw member for cozy sand...
fetta = eshan confirmed
everyone smurfing as someone else!! Ena=Sweet, Eshan=Fetta, Geass=Humanstar. SCANDAL ROCKS FML SEASON 25!!
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You forgot, wrecktify = darkflamemaster and maga = observeandlearn