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Title: M6 Result
Post by: FML|ResultsBot on May 08, 2017, 12:22:27 pm
M6
:Russia: :ud: qwest
:France: :ra: SosoHasRedHair
:Russia: :ud: Pyatac
:Germany: :ra: Slythe
Download (http://tft.w3arena.net/replays/details/11738)

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Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 08, 2017, 12:39:33 pm
These scores are not final. We are investigating this for a pause manip penalty.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: qwest on May 08, 2017, 01:04:13 pm
why? Shave paused game and we talking with Slythe
i thought manip duaring pause mean that someone who clicck on pause (mb duaring fight or hard situation) cant use pause for manip ( for example he have 5 builds and enemys want finish him and he use pause for talking)
but in that game only shave paused the game and ofc we wait him and talking,he can back and read chat and after say gogo
if i will get a penalty i will left from FML
cuz it will be very stange and stupid
Thanks
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 08, 2017, 01:22:25 pm
We were extremely clear before the season started with how the pause manipulation rules will work this season. Shave even gave you a warning during this match.

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And now Pause Manip. We are disallowing any forms of chat about the match in progress while the game is paused. We decided on this solution to preserve fairness for all players. In other words, we don't want any manipulation to happen behind someones back (while they are in the restroom for example). We also don't want players to pause for the specific purpose of manipulation.

The second part of this rule is essentially saying that any player can issue the warning and it does not have to be an admin. As long as a player stops manip after the warning, no penalties will be given. Once the game is resumed, please feel free to continue.

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3.40d Pause Manipulation

If the game is paused there is to be no discussion about the game currently in progress from any players. This includes any forms of manipulation as well as general discussion about the match. Discussion about anything outside from the match is allowed.

Players will receive a warning for the first offense. This warning can be given by anyone. Anything past the warning will be a deduction of -10 points per game.
Source: http://ffamasters.net/index.php?topic=2652
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: qwest on May 08, 2017, 01:51:41 pm
tell me pls, if i was fully inactive after S24 final, how i must know change in rules?
if u think that everyone check changing in rules - it not
idk what shave talking in game, cuz i cant trust him in ffa match and also cant check it duaring the game
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: qwest on May 08, 2017, 01:54:07 pm
<Players will receive a warning for the first offense.>
Why then you wrote  < hese scores are not final. We are investigating this for a pause manip penalty.>
????????????????
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: Slythe on May 08, 2017, 02:11:28 pm
So, there will be a warning and not a point deduction anyway, eh?

Idc anyway about it, because if we get, the rule is wrongly interpreted in my eyes.

Qwest is right, that there is a huge difference between "pausing the game by a player, who starts to manip" or by one player and the others players, who are anyway coordinated teaming him already talking about a detail like we did, which we did not executed btw :D.

This kind of situation though can cause a bit more stress for the player, who used the pause, if he let it getting to his nerves, so i am sorry about that and apolgize to shave. I should not have answered to qwests request in order to maybe not let escalate a tricky game like that a bit more.


About the game in general:

I felt, like i did not bad in the first half, except only losing 3 units to my third creepcamp, which had no effect though. Killing qwest´s base that easy was a bit lucky, cuz i had no vision of him fighting jaod at that time.

I maybe was then a bit too confident and passive. Missing some opportunities to go 100/ trying to take out shave´s rebuilded base. Then having my heroes and army split, which cost me a lot of momentum, after losing the 100 food fight in my main afterwards.

In the end it was a bit messed up with bad communication between shave and me. I did not answer his "stop or back" or what it exactly was and he ignored the fact i backed off and chased me. The teaming before was absolutely justified, since he had high heroes and big army.

Shave and i both missed it to save some workers.

Was overall a funny game. Shave did a nice comeback, but failed at securing the win with killing either of us in time. Qwest hustled well and just had to take the win  in the end which was presented by shave and me. Jaod did well in the 1v1, but lost ultimately due to little details.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 08, 2017, 02:20:08 pm
@qwest Because the Rule Adjustments post that I linked you was the announcement right before the S25 applications thread. You saw the application thread so we can expect you to see the post which preceded it as well.

@Slythe Thank you for understanding and you're right that we are debating just giving a second warning (since its a new rule, shave gave the first) or giving penalty points. Misinterpreting can happen, although I used an example when explaining which is exactly what happened in this game! :P
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on May 08, 2017, 04:23:34 pm
and so, it has begun  :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool: :icon_lol: :icon_smile: :icon_surprised: :icon_twisted: :icon_wink: :icon_mrgreen: :ra:
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: junkerzam on May 08, 2017, 04:29:49 pm
Lol how do you interpret "any forms of chat are disallowed" in more than one way, slythe?
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: Peregrine on May 09, 2017, 12:28:06 am
ah yes i am very familiar with the tone that worpex is using here.

so i used to have this boss at work. lets call him brandon. because his name was actually brandon. now brandon was the type of guy that really really really didnt want to be wrong. like ever. he would never ever admit any mistake, even the smallest mistake. i think he was scared about anyone questioning his authority. but what he didnt understand was nobody wanted to question his authority, we just wanted him to make good, thoughtful, fair decisions. i guess he had a huge ego, and on the inside he was really insecure. on the outside though, he was a dick.

when someone asked him a question about a decision that made it seem like his decision might not be perfect, he would respond in a very condescending tone. i called it the "it doesnt matter what you say, i am the boss" tone. atleast thats what i call it in my head. and here i see that same familiar tone being used

terrible unpopular rule, now lets go to the ends of the earth to enforce it, rather than rethink our decision
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: junkerzam on May 09, 2017, 01:08:12 am
Honestly eshan your analogy is a fkn insult towards the job worpex does, and unlike your retarded boss he is putting in his personal time.

We had this discussion before the season and tinkered with the rule during battle royale, the rule is the output from that. What do you suggest, that we remove rules midseason when players who doesnt read the rules get mad for breaking them?
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on May 09, 2017, 02:52:58 am
@Eshan , Worpex is a pretty cool guy once you get to talk to him, like actual talk (Skype, discord, etc). If you ever get to shoutcast with one of us you might get to know the other side of our personality rather than just some biased point of view from a comment, but yeah, once Worpex has made up his mind, is a little bit hard to change.

In any case, it is true that the manip ruling was submitted before s25 and there was a lot of debate and heat about. Personally, I think that once the rule has been stablished, might as well enforce it. Last season I was given -4pts for unpausing when I thought you said "please" rather than "piss, as in bathroom", it was an honest misunderstanding in a heated moment after 2 hours of double elf gayness. I hope admins make the right decision so that this sort of incident doesn't repeat again.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 09, 2017, 06:44:47 am
We would be getting blasted for not having a pause manip rule also - just like we did during Battle Royale.

Cumulo is right though, we don't change our minds mid-season once a decision is made. Its intentional though, not because we're trying to be a dick. Would you rather an admin team which changed its ruling every time an issue came up or one that responded consistently every time? I personally believe in consistency.

We aren't perfect, not trying to say we are. This rule is new as of this season and its going to take some time to get used to. I believe that its purpose makes the games more exciting and less stressful for players and observers.

Your post is a bit of an overreaction Eshan. We haven't gone to the 'ends of the earth' to enforce it. We haven't even officially enforced it yet! If no rule existed the same discussion would be here but instead about how there should be a rule.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: b100death on May 09, 2017, 07:15:31 am
3.40d Pause Manipulation
If the game is paused there is to be no discussion about the game currently in progress from any players. This includes any forms of manipulation as well as general discussion about the match. Discussion about anything outside from the match is allowed.
I like this rule. Good job Worpex
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: SweeT on May 09, 2017, 07:27:13 am
Quote from: Eshan on May 09, 2017, 12:28:06 am

 now brandon was the type of guy that really really really didnt want to be wrong. like ever. he would never ever admit any mistake, even the smallest mistake.

this ironically sounds like you eshan :D

you never admit you manip people hard. "I have 800 gold" > has 10k gold in reality.

me - "why manip eshan?"
eshan - "You're manniping against me, suicide it is"

Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: fetta_ook on May 09, 2017, 07:35:06 am
So i used to have this colleague at work, let's call him peregrine but his real name was actually Eshan. Now this Eshan guy was a really really really unpopular guy in the community. Not only that he was constantly whining and spending his entire time on just annoying people, but he was also complete shit at what he was doing. When he went to his union to complain about his work, they also hated him so he wasn't welcome anywhere. Nobody wanted anything to do with him, but since people knew that he was never to be seen as a threat, people just shunned him and his last resort was to turn to online forums to continue his whine.

On a more serious note: Eshan - you are a complete douche bag, never contributing to anything in this community and just keep bashing the admin team with your  shitty fucking explanations and accusations.

Gtfo out of FML, nobody likes you
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: noexxx on May 09, 2017, 08:24:54 am
My opinion about that, when someone pauses a game, it becomes really boring. The other players should have a right to talk about anything they want. Pausing for just talking should be banned. But if someone pauses to go pee, other players should be alloud to talk because the guy who pauses already wastes their time. Please change the rule again to if someone pauses and goes pee or opening a door players can talk. If someone pauses to manip, its not aloud. Because if that pausing and going to pee can be a sort of manip. Example: someone wants to attsck you, you go to pee for 3 minutes, no one can talk, players get bored, the person forgets he wanted to attack you. Peeing manip pause worked, Hourra!!
Gl hf everyone Noexxx
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: qwest on May 09, 2017, 08:51:49 am
I really can not understand why players can not talk about anything when a pause is taken by a player who needs a pause
This does not violate any balance in the game, on the contrary the player who took a break can read the chat log and use this information

I think that under <manp pause> it is necessary to mean only a pause set during battles or some kind of quick action, after which the player begins to write manipulations and correctly that it was banned
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 09, 2017, 09:10:14 am
Quote from: noexxx on May 09, 2017, 08:24:54 am
My opinion about that, when someone pauses a game, it becomes really boring. The other players should have a right to talk about anything they want. Pausing for just talking should be banned. But if someone pauses to go pee, other players should be alloud to talk because the guy who pauses already wastes their time. Please change the rule again to if someone pauses and goes pee or opening a door players can talk. If someone pauses to manip, its not aloud. Because if that pausing and going to pee can be a sort of manip. Example: someone wants to attsck you, you go to pee for 3 minutes, no one can talk, players get bored, the person forgets he wanted to attack you. Peeing manip pause worked, Hourra!!
Gl hf everyone Noexxx


Talking is not banned, bro. Manip during pause is banned. Two completely different things.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: noexxx on May 09, 2017, 09:20:25 am
Yeah Worpex I understood that, but if I've see correctly, they already decided to team shave when he paused, then they just talked about which hero to attack, not sure though. But if they just talked about which hero to sleep atk, its not manip because they already decided to team him. I didn't rewatch the game exactly so I may be wrong.
My point was that pausing a game can also be a form of manip so I don't see why others shouldn't talk or manip during a pause.
the guy who paused and starts to manip shouldn't be aloud though
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 09, 2017, 09:55:18 am
We've already discussed in length why we went with no manip during pause from everyone. Just banning part of the problem does not solve the problem. Player X can pause to pee while Y and Z manip while hes away. Then when X comes back he can refuse to unpause and manips instead. Now we have another manip pause situation.

There were other situations discussed but the point is that banning manip during pause is the solution that eliminates pause manip completely. Feel free to read over the chat from before in the thread I had linked to previously, we went much more in detail in that thread.

Also, I honestly don't see how someone pausing cause be considered manip if they don't even chat about the game. I think thats a stretch...

Here is the chat log:

Code: (first pause) [Select]
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: sec
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: need pee
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: i always drink so much in the gym
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: brb
(33:17 / All) Slythe: k, aka manip pause
(33:17 / All) qwest: i suicde u and gren win
(33:17 / All) qwest: its my expo
(33:17 / All) qwest: fuck u
(33:17 / All) qwest: rly
(33:17 / All) Jaod: i go finish you
(33:17 / All) qwest: fuck u
(33:17 / All) Jaod: stfu
(33:17 / All) qwest: u do nothing
(33:17 / All) qwest: green whole map
(33:17 / All) qwest: u stay at 50
(33:17 / All) qwest: gk
(33:17 / All) qwest: gj
(33:17 / All) Jaod: i 76
(33:17 / All) Jaod: learn scout
(33:17 / All) qwest: take other side expos
(33:17 / All) Jaod: no
(33:17 / All) qwest: 20k emty exp[o
(33:17 / All) qwest: its my
(33:17 / All) Jaod: i need t5hat
(33:17 / All) Jaod: only
(33:17 / All) qwest: u lose that game then
(33:17 / All) qwest: i creped it first
(33:17 / All) qwest: and builde
(33:17 / All) qwest: d
(33:17 / All) qwest: u rush me
(33:17 / All) qwest: and dead
(33:17 / All) qwest: up honor and sell expo
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: yo pause manip is not allowed
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: penalty
(33:17 / All) qwest: i let life
(33:17 / All) qwest: your acos
(33:17 / All) Slythe: go
(33:17 / All) qwest: g
(33:17 / All) Jaod: g
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: G
(33:17 / All) UjustGotShaved: or do i have to raed that crap now?
(33:17) The game has been resumed by UjustGotShaved.
Code: (second pause) [Select]
(90:46 / All) UjustGotShaved: sec
(90:46 / All) UjustGotShaved: need pee
(90:46 / All) UjustGotShaved: again
(90:46 / All) Slythe: pff
(90:46 / All) qwest: u have main|?
(90:46 / All) Slythe: nope
(90:46 / All) qwest: tt
(90:46 / All) qwest: i will sleep sh or tc?
(90:46 / All) Slythe: sh
(90:46 / All) Slythe: i silence tc
(90:46 / All) qwest: kk
(90:46 / All) qwest: domnt slience me
(90:46 / All) qwest: )
(90:46 / All) Slythe: i try ^^
(90:46 / All) qwest: xD)
(90:46 / All) UjustGotShaved: re
(90:46 / All) Slythe: if he close
(90:46 / All) qwest: g
(90:46 / All) UjustGotShaved: u guys do know
(90:46 / All) Slythe: other way round
(90:46 / All) Slythe: go
(90:46 / All) UjustGotShaved: that pause manip
(90:46) The game has been resumed by Slythe.
(90:46 / All) UjustGotShaved: is penalty?
(90:57 / All) Slythe: g
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: AlienWareOwnZ on May 09, 2017, 01:52:03 pm
Is anyone surprised Eshan is manniping worpex into a rule change where he can manip MORE in game? Lmao

As far as the rules go, they are in place to be obided by right? If you don't like the rules you can always choose to no participate or enjoy the league where these rules were In place when you signed up.

Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: Tleilaxu on May 09, 2017, 02:57:14 pm
Rule should be enforced, but why on earth would you consider Shave's "warning" a warning when he's not an admin, not even an obs, but a biased player?

Also, lol @ Eshan's long condescending post. If I were Worpex I wouldn't take that shit to my face.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: Peregrine on May 09, 2017, 03:21:37 pm
Just wanna apologize to worpex - i should have worded that more clearly

Worpex is a great admin and has put enormous time and effort into this league, was not trying to bash him personally. The post comes off as rly mean and i didnt mean for it to come off that offensively

Was  making an observation about his tone in the post about this topic, which i disagree with him on. The tone reminded me of the tone my dick boss would use

But in reading it over, it comes on way too strong, and i didnt mean to bash him in that way. I still disagree with the decision, but worpex has always been a devoted admin, and i have nothing against him.

@alien - im more just concerned with the spirit of free for all vs too much regulation. This is a new rule this season, i would just like it to return to normal. Not trying to create a situation for MORE manip than before

Ps @Fetta you are a joke in this league, and your post illuminates what you fear to be true about you^^
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: Peregrine on May 09, 2017, 03:32:20 pm
And back to the topic

Worpex: " Just banning part of the problem does not solve the problem. Player X can pause to pee while Y and Z manip while hes away. Then when X comes back he can refuse to unpause and manips instead. Now we have another manip pause situation"

This is true but as long as there is a total time limit on pause time, it can never go past ten mins total. And you can still penalize people based on if players complain that hes pausing TO manip

Anyway, i understand this is the rule this season, but this is a league by players for players so its natural for us to discuss and debate the rules. Not just "abide by them" as alien said
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 09, 2017, 03:51:19 pm
I agree Eshan. This league wouldn't be where it is without debate! This shit is tame compared to FML Season 1! Holy hell, that season was a nightmare to get through and if it wasn't for the community and loyal FFA players this league would have died off way back then. So, I encourage debate as much as possible. We rarely delete posts or lock topics as long as they don't turn into a war room.

Writing posts that accidentally take a tone that you don't mean is my specialty so I didn't take your post harshly. Glad a bunch of you stood up for me though <3.

This particular issue seems to be divided pretty evenly. Many people appreciate the changes and many people don't. Admin team needed to take a side and obviously not everyone is going to be on the same fence that we are on. Just know that the change we try to make are to keep the games fun and fair for everyone... players and spectators.

On the other issue... yeah, theres a 10minute limit. But seriously, do you really want 10minutes of paused game manip chat? O_o cause very few players do and absolutely no spectators want that. Then factor in that you can technically do that for all 4 players so a total of 40minutes of manip chat and no game? no thanks.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 09, 2017, 07:03:05 pm
Quote from: Tleilaxu on May 09, 2017, 02:57:14 pm
Rule should be enforced, but why on earth would you consider Shave's "warning" a warning when he's not an admin, not even an obs, but a biased player?

Also, lol @ Eshan's long condescending post. If I were Worpex I wouldn't take that shit to my face.

Well at first we just wanted to give the penalty right away; but we realize it was easy to forget about a new rule in the heat of the action.
So we figured we would allow a fellow player or obs to give the warning before deducting points. That way if someone kept on manipping after the warning, it would be on purpose. (we din't really consider the case of them starting to chat 60 min after the warning had been given :S)
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: Tleilaxu on May 09, 2017, 09:05:19 pm
And how are you supposed to deal with trust issues when the fellow player is obviously biased toward winning?
If I didn't know about the rule and I saw that chat I wouldn't believe it either.
An admin or obs with bot rights should have stepped in and clarified if you want it to be that way.
The way I interpreted the rule is that admins will issue a warning upon rule breaking.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on May 09, 2017, 10:30:25 pm
oh lol, Qwest manipped during pause twice in a same game, even after arab shave warned him/reminded him about the new rule?. Well, I would expect some pps coming from admins soon, otherwise it's just as bullshit of a rule as the healthcare bill passed by republicans last week  :icon_surprised:
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: SweeT on May 10, 2017, 02:19:38 am
lol peru  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: SosoHasRedHair on May 10, 2017, 08:05:14 am
Fine since everyone seems to be posting stuff in here i will also do it.

Does this rule make sense? Yes since 2 people manipping vs a third who cannot countermanip nor read at that time is the same situation as when Slythe and I start coordinating teaming against qwest in german. We all can agree that its neither fair nor good sportmanship.

Can we assume they did read the rules? Well there was a big post right before the season so everyone shouldve read that one especially people that follow fml and take part every even like slythe and qwest.

Can we assume they understood the rules? Slythe might often show his low iq by the lategame decisions he does. But lets be honest whats there not to understand?

Now we have to think about the other player (me) what else can I do if they break the rules and i tell them they are breaking the rules yet they keep doing it? It was clearly to my disadventage, I informed/reminded them its not allowed and they continued breaking the rules to my disadventage.

Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: qwest on May 10, 2017, 08:16:03 am
1)Shave, when u paused game i talking with Jaod cuz hes suicide me and i was very agressive
and also i didnt see your msg or just ignore it cuz i focused on fucking suicider
2) ok,i agree rule is rule and doesnt metter knew i that rule or not
But FML admins! Wtf? Mb be msg me to pm and say 《qwest rule here, dont use manip duaring pause next game pls or next will be penalty》
But nope.. we open that disscus...

None of the administration preempted me and if I played another game tomorrow and did the same, on the basis of the rule I would not have received a fine, because warnings were not until now
That rule rly stupid but admins fully ignore me
I just saw in chat box how Renaud writes insultes about me
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: Pyatac on May 10, 2017, 09:25:32 am
Quote from: qwest on May 10, 2017, 08:16:03 am
1)Shave, when u paused game i talking with Jaod cuz hes suicide me and i was very agressive
and also i didnt see your msg or just ignore it cuz i focused on fucking suicider
2) ok,i agree rule is rule and doesnt metter knew i that rule or not
But FML admins! Wtf? Mb be msg me to pm and say 《qwest rule here, dont use manip duaring pause next game pls or next will be penalty》
But nope.. we open that disscus...

None of the administration preempted me and if I played another game tomorrow and did the same, on the basis of the rule I would not have received a fine, because warnings were not until now
That rule rly stupid but admins fully ignore me
I just saw in chat box how Renaud writes insultes about me


YOU FUCKING CLOWN i not was fucking suicider ( AS YOU SAID ) - i scout all players - all game with my 3 shadows - and i see all !

You not have this fucking shadows ALL GAME ! :icon_biggrin:

Your first shade born at 65 min of game and only for BM of mr shave.... and it is just LUL

I have enought reasons war with you - i atk that exp ( i told you that aggain and aggain ) CUZ of i writed you peace => if you get me back 2 exp - but you ignored me and that is - why i atk your fucking exp...

I can explain specially for you - every me decisions - all of that have reason - in every min of game .

Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 10, 2017, 09:59:52 am
Quote from: qwest on May 10, 2017, 08:16:03 am
1)Shave, when u paused game i talking with Jaod cuz hes suicide me and i was very agressive
and also i didnt see your msg or just ignore it cuz i focused on fucking suicider
2) ok,i agree rule is rule and doesnt metter knew i that rule or not
But FML admins! Wtf? Mb be msg me to pm and say 《qwest rule here, dont use manip duaring pause next game pls or next will be penalty》
But nope.. we open that disscus...

None of the administration preempted me and if I played another game tomorrow and did the same, on the basis of the rule I would not have received a fine, because warnings were not until now
That rule rly stupid but admins fully ignore me
I just saw in chat box how Renaud writes insultes about me


Admin team will not be at every match nor are we paying attention to every minute of the matches. Players are expected to know the rules. Sadly admin team is short staffed this season.
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: qwest on May 10, 2017, 12:08:26 pm
Worpex, i mean after games
When u saw replay
You can msg  me and say 《 dont manip duaring the pause anymore or next will be penalty》 thats all
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: QQs on May 10, 2017, 05:56:22 pm
Quote from: FML|WorpeX on May 10, 2017, 09:59:52 am
Quote from: qwest on May 10, 2017, 08:16:03 am
1)Shave, when u paused game i talking with Jaod cuz hes suicide me and i was very agressive
and also i didnt see your msg or just ignore it cuz i focused on fucking suicider
2) ok,i agree rule is rule and doesnt metter knew i that rule or not
But FML admins! Wtf? Mb be msg me to pm and say 《qwest rule here, dont use manip duaring pause next game pls or next will be penalty》
But nope.. we open that disscus...

None of the administration preempted me and if I played another game tomorrow and did the same, on the basis of the rule I would not have received a fine, because warnings were not until now
That rule rly stupid but admins fully ignore me
I just saw in chat box how Renaud writes insultes about me


Admin team will not be at every match nor are we paying attention to every minute of the matches. Players are expected to know the rules. Sadly admin team is short staffed this season.

I can be your admin, baby
I can kiss away the pain
I will stand by you forever
You can take my breath away
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 10, 2017, 06:28:10 pm
Quote from: qwest on May 10, 2017, 12:08:26 pm
Worpex, i mean after games
When u saw replay
You can msg  me and say 《 dont manip duaring the pause anymore or next will be penalty》 thats all

Want me to tuck you into bed and cook you breakfast too?
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: FML|Mog on May 10, 2017, 07:46:51 pm
Worpex, who WOULDN'T want that?
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on May 10, 2017, 07:56:04 pm
Quote from: FML|WorpeX on May 10, 2017, 06:28:10 pm
Quote from: qwest on May 10, 2017, 12:08:26 pm
Worpex, i mean after games
When u saw replay
You can msg  me and say 《 dont manip duaring the pause anymore or next will be penalty》 thats all

Want me to tuck you into bed and cook you breakfast too?

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Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: b100death on May 11, 2017, 03:15:01 am
Cumulo for sure would not refuse are Wreck yogurt at bed for night
Title: Re: M6 Result
Post by: vercingetorix on May 16, 2017, 05:37:45 pm
The game which is mostly about manipulation and deceiving becomes more and more bureaucratic. Rules are rules and there definitely should be rules applied, but prohibition of match related discussions during a pause seems to be rather artificially imposed.

Soon the pausing itself might be banned and all participants will have to play near toilet/refrigerator/phone/entrance door/etc. underline the most important option for you :)