Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 07, 2017, 10:21:24 pm
for the record; early game I was not keeping eshan alive for the purpose of toming him
I was trying to kill him asap, and failing miserably
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: Peregrine on May 07, 2017, 11:57:23 pm
wp renaud. you rly got me in the beginning - and then you were able to take advantage of opportunities at the end
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: SweeT on May 08, 2017, 01:22:46 am
Renaud deserved it most out of the3 of you. Eshan played like a complete rat even after we let him live. Will know to always kill this guy fast in future
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on May 08, 2017, 10:16:26 am
lmao Australia :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on May 08, 2017, 10:24:12 am
I havenīt watched the game yet, but given the comments it looks like an ammusing one :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: Peregrine on May 08, 2017, 10:43:00 am
sweet i was very confused @ your play. i never fought you, or touched you all game. we had no conflict between us. i went out of my way to avoid hitting you. but you kept manipping vs me and got everyone to team me in my base when I had the lowest heroes in the game. so i was forced to focus you and mass tp you out of the game. but i never wanted to do that in the first place...only after u constantly manip vs me...very confusing.
i played very bad and got destroyed by renaud at start. i manipped about my gold because it was my only chance to win. you told me to make anti chim so i make tanks. then u say "team eshan, he has tanks!" :icon_eek: :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 08, 2017, 11:12:07 am
I was very off on my gold count for sweet & trunk; I figured you guys would be much lower from the constant fighting, assumed you were around 5k when I destroyed the main, and that rebuilding would have sent you down to 1-2k. Really should have been sending more owls to see what was going on early game
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on May 08, 2017, 11:39:07 am
. but you kept manipping vs me and got everyone to team me in my base when I had the lowest heroes in the game...only after u constantly manip vs me...very confusing.
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: SweeT on May 08, 2017, 12:46:57 pm
@Eshan the reason why is because Trunkzz wasn't seeing you were strongest. I had strong logic in trying to focus you. Trunkzzz was clearly tunnel vision on renaud constantly hitting him and stealing chims
Let's just say I didn't speak and I peaced with you, then what? we crush trunkzz or renaud, then you clean up with your 9K GOLD and 10 tanks and mass tp??
I had to eventually backstab you at some point, but I didn't think I had time. You minded that top mine and bottom left for ages, so I knew you had over 6k at least and the others weren't as strong.
I wasn't planning to eliminate you, but clearly you needed to be weakened. But now I know in future that you are the type to just suicide and ruin your own chances and very big lies on gold count, saying you had 800 gold when you had 10k? lol... when you said that it was obvious you were lying big time. Also that breaker move, damn man, you had to send him in just as I left my base :(
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: SweeT on May 08, 2017, 12:51:37 pm
@Renaud, yeah i had 10k when you killed me, but I had 0 WOOD and my peons kept dying. That was pretty bad :(
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: Peregrine on May 08, 2017, 01:21:56 pm
i actually dont know what breaker move you're referring to
but its funny to me that you still think i was ever the strongest in this game, when trunks had just as much gold as me, massive heroes, 9 stolen chims, and the best micro in FFA
and renaud had mass gold, heroes, and is an fml champion and YOU had mass gold too until near the end
if you still think i was really the strongest then maybe u have tunnel vision against human, or tanks, or me
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: SweeT on May 08, 2017, 01:56:52 pm
Referring to just before I got eliminated. I was guarding my base then I moved out just outside and you moved your breaker in just before I was going to run back. THen you mass tped and finished.
and actually no I think i was correct in assuming you were my biggest threat. I don't care about chims at all, i had 5 wyverns and a few bats and tri hero with orb. Tanks and mass tp are my only threat and you had mass gold.
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: FML|Mog on May 11, 2017, 02:25:18 pm
Finally watched game; just have to point out that Renaud won AND he was 3rd in gold mined. That hardly ever happens! gg
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: deluded on May 12, 2017, 05:17:53 pm
very nice back and forth game, thx for recommend @SweeT.
eshan is the biggest mystery in FML community to me. he has this very consistent reputation as a "manip player" but i can't understand why others think he is so special in this regard.
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 12, 2017, 11:36:34 pm
Here's my theory:
Back in the days, you could divide players in two groups 1- Hoarders/Manipper 2- Good micro
Eshan was a good micro player, so everyone tended to assume that he was honest (at least more honest than the low apm players). That's why we always felt the need to remind everyone that he did manip a lot.
Since then, we have got a lot of players who can properly manip and micro, but I think Eshan was one of the first to do both well.
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: SweeT on May 13, 2017, 06:20:48 am
If you watch the game he consistently said he had 300 gold . 800 gold etc when he had 10k was a blatant lie considering he was mining top for ages. I dont think many ppl pther than eshan are that blatant in their manip
Title: Re: M2 Result
Post by: Peregrine on May 15, 2017, 05:14:49 pm
yeah i lied pretty blatantly in this game but i thought it was my only chance to win, since i had a broken base, lowest heroes, and had been tomed all game!