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Title: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Ugrilainen on January 01, 2017, 12:26:11 am
Integration of Equalrium, Greenville Woods, Normandy and Retvizan Islands.

Gold Rush, Deathrose and Murgul are back. Harvest returns in Normal Heroes.

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Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: FML|Mog on January 01, 2017, 01:02:08 am
Looks really good. Thanks ugri!
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: AJIKAIII on January 01, 2017, 01:02:47 am
thank you ugri!
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: AJIKAIII on January 01, 2017, 03:46:39 am
Need to fix tavern cuz hero stuck here (https://i.imgur.com/JOUdNse.jpg)
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Ugrilainen on January 01, 2017, 04:31:05 am
call map maker for help, I cant fix maps :(

I was told all maps had been tested
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Ugrilainen on January 01, 2017, 04:48:24 am
@AJIKAIII Mr Light fixed it, i will reupload the new version later.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Neo-Geo on January 01, 2017, 05:05:19 am
Good to see Deathrose back. Only map that had true markets with crown of kings and mask of death. Rock Quarry is another with high level market I believe, though I've seen version with dragon roost shop in mid. Also good to see hard to fill maps removed, such as Deadbolt and that 12 man tiny size map that lacked green and red creeps ((12)TheTwelveRenauds2), only won that map once because of lucky spawn.

I've grown fond of custom heroes. Players like Seksi told me I would find it fun, took me a long while to adjust, but the right hero combo can be quite satisfying. Fav being Tauren Chieftain, Death Knight for move speed. Also enjoy Dread Lord + melee heroes for aura of mask of death.

I'd also recommend return of that all time fav 12 man map, Divide and Conquer.
https://youtu.be/Un9zDWjTqwg
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Ugrilainen on January 01, 2017, 05:14:24 am
actually Deadbolt is still there, I will remove it to add Fjord Rdm Heroes.

I will add fixed maps and

I will add Divide and Conquer back.

Give me some likes! :D
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: FML|WorpeX on January 01, 2017, 09:33:02 am
Ugri, please DO NOT add any map competition maps to the pool until the event is over. They are NOT tested nor are they complete. The makers still have a month to finish them.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Mr.LighT on January 01, 2017, 10:02:43 am
Ugri, please DO NOT add any map competition maps to the pool until the event is over. They are NOT tested nor are they complete. The makers still have a month to finish them.
A map can not be 100% completed. There is no limit to perfection.
It can be said that the map is ready to 99.9% when it was played just 1000+. And this can be achieved on the bot only.
My maps are ready to 99.5%. If you need more, I need a feedback.
Feedback from the FFA bot is the best that can be.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Ugrilainen on January 01, 2017, 10:15:47 am
Ugri, please DO NOT add any map competition maps to the pool until the event is over. They are NOT tested nor are they complete. The makers still have a month to finish them.

Maps are removed.

@Neo-Geo I added Divide and removed Deadlock RH
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: FML|WorpeX on January 01, 2017, 10:35:36 am
Ugri, please DO NOT add any map competition maps to the pool until the event is over. They are NOT tested nor are they complete. The makers still have a month to finish them.
A map can not be 100% completed. There is no limit to perfection.
It can be said that the map is ready to 99.9% when it was played just 1000+. And this can be achieved on the bot only.
My maps are ready to 99.5%. If you need more, I need a feedback.
Feedback from the FFA bot is the best that can be.

It's also a competition fairness issue. Other creators would not have this advantage with their maps. I don't mean to imply that your maps are not tested/finished
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Ugrilainen on January 01, 2017, 10:52:56 am
Ugri, please DO NOT add any map competition maps to the pool until the event is over. They are NOT tested nor are they complete. The makers still have a month to finish them.
A map can not be 100% completed. There is no limit to perfection.
It can be said that the map is ready to 99.9% when it was played just 1000+. And this can be achieved on the bot only.
My maps are ready to 99.5%. If you need more, I need a feedback.
Feedback from the FFA bot is the best that can be.

It's also a competition fairness issue. Other creators would not have this advantage with their maps. I don't mean to imply that your maps are not tested/finished

We could have worked on something together. FFArena is a good way to extensively test maps in details. If the goal is to get the best FFA maps possible then this is a useful tool. FML community will be able to organize a couple of games on each submitted maps version with a scope way smaller than full scale testing in an automatic rotation with hundred of players.

I do not want to appear like interfering in your contest so I follow your request of course. This is never my objective to appear being a disturbance- you can be assured.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: FML|WorpeX on January 01, 2017, 11:19:19 am
Yeah we could work on something that would be more fair. Let's talk about that over PM
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: ObserveAndLearn on January 01, 2017, 12:40:04 pm
Awesome. Thank you so much, Ugri
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Ugrilainen on January 02, 2017, 12:23:25 am
I did not receive pm and chat box was full of akward rumors today so I will write my suggestion in a post here to make everything clear.

I suggest that when a map is submitted to you guys, after a quick review from the contest leaderboard and potential update, the map is sent to DV for testing on the ladder.

The sole purpose of this is to detect potential glitch and make room for improvement on a large testing scale (like the tavern glitch we detected yesterday). It is in no way to determine the winner that will be decided by FML only.

DV has been raised to the rank of Map pool Jedi, he can update anything now.

You can ask him to put in or out, put new version of any map you need testing anytime you want during the contest. 4 slots only though at a time for map to be tested.

I suggest the creation of a feedback thread for reporting issues or glitches.

When contest is over, the winner will be in the permanent rotation of FFArena. Then DV and I will add two more that went far into the competition and we think would suit ladder needs / with FML opinion being highly regarded.

I announced that on twitter, I hope it will be an incentive for more people to participate as map makers like their maps to be played.

Hope this is satisfactory. Goal is only to bring positive things for the Warcraft world.

Waiting for your opinion

Bets regards

Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: FML|red7z7 on January 02, 2017, 01:25:32 am
This sounds good to me! But as worpex is leading the effort in the map making contest, will await his opinion.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Peregrine on January 02, 2017, 02:44:36 am
Hi Ugri

Thank you for the map changes, this is really great. Would be nice to have a rock quarry normal hero map too! A lot of people like that map but dont play random heroes!
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: FML|WorpeX on January 02, 2017, 09:45:26 am
I did not receive pm and chat box was full of akward rumors today so I will write my suggestion in a post here to make everything clear.

I suggest that when a map is submitted to you guys, after a quick review from the contest leaderboard and potential update, the map is sent to DV for testing on the ladder.

The sole purpose of this is to detect potential glitch and make room for improvement on a large testing scale (like the tavern glitch we detected yesterday). It is in no way to determine the winner that will be decided by FML only.

DV has been raised to the rank of Map pool Jedi, he can update anything now.

You can ask him to put in or out, put new version of any map you need testing anytime you want during the contest. 4 slots only though at a time for map to be tested.

I suggest the creation of a feedback thread for reporting issues or glitches.

When contest is over, the winner will be in the permanent rotation of FFArena. Then DV and I will add two more that went far into the competition and we think would suit ladder needs / with FML opinion being highly regarded.

I announced that on twitter, I hope it will be an incentive for more people to participate as map makers like their maps to be played.

Hope this is satisfactory. Goal is only to bring positive things for the Warcraft world.

Waiting for your opinion

Bets regards



I apologize, I was celebrating with family and friends all day for the new years holiday.

I do like this idea. This keeps the map pool fluid and allows for changes to maps and addition of new maps very easily. Thank you Ugri for your cooperation and for allowing DV to help with maps, he should do a great job. It satisfies all of my concerns. I appreciate the work you're doing Ugri!

I will update the Map Contest thread with these new rules and create a feedback thread for reporting issues.

Edit: I have also bumped DV- to mediator status on the FML website.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: DV- on January 02, 2017, 12:42:30 pm
1. [M]AltaiMountains
2. Twilight
3. [M]PoisonWell
4. Silverpine
5. Market
6. Monsoon
7. Sanctuary
8. Harvest of Sorrow
9. [M]FreezingField
10. Market
11. Silverpine
12. Twilight
13.
14. The Crucible
15. Sanctuary
16. Divide and Conquer
17.
18. Isle of Dread
19. Cold Plains
20. Gold Rush
21. Rock Quarry
22. Harvest of Sorrow
23. Deathrose
24. Moonsoon
25. [M]Equalrium

Updated 12.01.17 01:00 CET
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Jaody21 on January 02, 2017, 01:02:24 pm
 Great job guys - ty !!!
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Lootnscoot124 on January 03, 2017, 09:20:51 pm
Thanks for putting in a new rotation.  The only suggestion I would make is to make it a 50/50 mix between normal and random heroes.  I only play random heroes and seems a lot of others do as well since they fill quickly.  It's just annoying to have to sit and wait for 2 games to fill if you missed the last random hero game.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: FML|red7z7 on January 03, 2017, 11:24:47 pm
@Wrecktify ^^ here's your reporter plz have civil discusssion with him :DD

/popcorn
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Wrecktify on January 04, 2017, 09:47:51 am
@Wrecktify ^^ here's your reporter plz have civil discusssion with him :DD

/popcorn

OMG I HATE LOOT AND SCOOT ERRONEOUS REPORT MASTER

(https://2ch.hk/gb/src/7643/14474907394501.png)
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on January 04, 2017, 10:11:00 am
^ that's one hell of a creepy meme O_O
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Wrecktify on January 04, 2017, 11:10:08 am
I googled "rage rage rage" cause I figured that was appropriate.  I dunno its hard for me to get worked up about this stuff 8D
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: Lootnscoot124 on January 04, 2017, 05:01:14 pm
Just post the replay and let people decide for themselves.  I only report about .02% of my games so it's going to be some pretty egregious teaming when I do post.
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: SteppinRazor on January 06, 2017, 09:12:08 am
Wreck must have been american preteaming with Dinamo again -_-

or calling people of lesser intelligence "zadrots"
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: DV- on January 11, 2017, 07:16:52 pm
1. [M]AltaiMountains
2. Twilight
3. [M]PoisonWell
4. Silverpine
5. Market
6. Monsoon
7. Sanctuary
8. Harvest of Sorrow
9. [M]FreezingField
10. Market
11. Silverpine
12. Twilight
13.
14. The Crucible
15. Sanctuary
16. [M]CozySands
17.
18. Isle of Dread
19. Cold Plains
20. Gold Rush
21. Rock Quarry
22. Harvest of Sorrow
23. Deathrose
24. Battleground
25. Moonsoon

Updated 16.01.17 07:00 CET


A little bump so ppl can follow ladder mappool easier
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: DV- on January 29, 2017, 10:30:10 pm
1. [M] (6)NeonCity
2. (8)Twilight
3. (6)Monsoon
4. (8)Sanctuary
5. (6)WorpexOfSorrow
6. (8)Battleground
7. [M] (4)Purity
8. (8)MarketSquareRdm
9. (6)SilverpineForest
10. (8)TwilightRuins
11. (8)GoldRush
12. (6)SilverpineForestRdm
13.
14. [M] (6)AshenWood
15. (8)MarketSquare
16. (8)CrazyDumbMeadows
17.
18. (8)Sanctuary
19. (6)ColdPlains
20. (8)PersuadeQuarry
21. [M] (6)PoisonWell
22. (6)Harvest_of_Sorrow
23. (6)MonsoonRdm
24. (4)Deathrose
25. (8)PinballCrux



30.01.17
Updated
Title: Re: New FFA map pool - FFArena
Post by: b100death on January 30, 2017, 10:37:24 am
propose to add: FreezingField, Andorhal, TranquilPaths, Polynesia, Mur'gulOasis.
delete: Monsoon, Monsoon(rdm), Battleground.