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Title: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 09, 2015, 10:21:17 am
Hi!

I'll be posting here the last news I have about FFArena progress.

It will be easier for me to have an official topic rather than answering people questions about FFArena here and there.

I posted an update on skype yesterday. I hope we wont wait too long before the next news  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: DV- on May 09, 2015, 11:02:29 am
(http://www.fabianmastrorillo.com/tumbleweed.gif)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: AJIKAIII on May 10, 2015, 05:42:49 am
It's in Kazakhstan?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: DV- on May 10, 2015, 10:46:54 am
/shave mode on

power lines in kazakhstan?

/shave mode off
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Tleilaxu on May 10, 2015, 01:32:39 pm
lol'd
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 14, 2015, 10:31:57 am
No news from Yosh

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-kNRR3eYRXE/TSjc4Q6ZQsI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/lCwV_O3TqoA/s1600/tumbleweed.jpg)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on May 15, 2015, 02:57:03 am
I am wondering what the paradise can stop you from starting some bots and put them in autohosting mode. Especially with all their cfg that has been transferred, why what I have been doing alone for so long and that has been 80% transferred is still stuck on some unknown issues only familiar to skype group users.

I mean sorry to be arrogant, but if I did it why cant you?

Now you can turn the flame on!

Ugri
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 15, 2015, 04:40:32 am
Ask Yosh, issues are only familiar to him*
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: GM on May 15, 2015, 01:42:02 pm
Story of how FFA was accidentally killed for good :icon_lol:
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Tyrant66 on May 15, 2015, 03:12:41 pm
Stop depending from w3arena. They dont care about ffa its obvious, only that/those man can make a succesful ladder who want to play and keep alive ffa. Start some bot with like 10 noncustom map. No need ladder system or anything what is harder to program. All the ffa palyers will stop to try play it or will stop w3... And of course remove that anonymus shit which killed all the fun. who the fuck cares the stats really its more important to play and keep the community together. Its not like i wanna claim from you to make a ladder its your choice but as i see you guys really wanna do it. Its my opinion of this drama :D Hope its understandable Your ladder was perfect Ugri so sad its over. But honestly i enjoyed that only until that was with names.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on May 15, 2015, 05:47:54 pm
Ugri help us!! :(

Yosh wants to do it, but I guess he is missing what to do or info

Tyrant they have all the stuff ready, ffarena can still go.  ponty/yosh/keno all think it will too, we just need it to happen
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on May 15, 2015, 07:26:55 pm
May I ask what happened to Keno? He was supposed to be in charge, more than w3arena which was supposed to be providing mostly tech support
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: letshavesomefun on May 16, 2015, 06:41:52 am
What happend to us tyrant? we were like brothers....and now the only life signs i get from you is here....


UGRI WE NEED YOU SO BAD WE ALREADY STARTED PLAYING HOTS :D iam not addicted yet....but when i finally get that unicorn for my jaina who knows.....
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Tyrant66 on May 16, 2015, 07:39:47 am
We can be together again soon or later haha
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 16, 2015, 08:09:37 am
What happend to us tyrant? we were like brothers....and now the only life signs i get from you is here....


UGRI WE NEED YOU SO BAD WE ALREADY STARTED PLAYING HOTS :D iam not addicted yet....but when i finally get that unicorn for my jaina who knows.....

Is that Heroes of the Storm or Heart of the Swarm?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: zTsoso on May 16, 2015, 09:08:39 am
Heroes of the Storm - microing one unit is all shave can manage so it suits his skills :-)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on May 16, 2015, 01:48:31 pm
Ugri,

Ponty could comment on this better then myself, but I know Keno has been really busy with family things and Yosh also very busy, and confused with some things.  It seems to be being worked on, but it is behind the scenes.

Could you help at all?

long live playffa
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 16, 2015, 06:03:31 pm
Yosh keeps saying that he is working on it and that it should start soon but doesn't really give explanations about why it progress that slow when I ask.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: fow on May 17, 2015, 02:32:37 am
cuz w3a is a 1v1 server not ffa. they too busy making 1v1 tournys atm. its just how it is.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 17, 2015, 03:15:11 am
Well, I haven't followed the whole thing, but from my experience, these things usually fail when you try to have them perfect from the start.

You don't need to be on every server at first... you don't even need to have a ladder recording the win/loss at first! I don't think playffa had any of those when it started running!

First you get the autohosting, once that's done you can start worrying about ladder and stats.  Once you have that going, you can take the time to have a little free forum to report hackers and stuff. And once that's all taken care of, you can worry about the little extra, like being on every server.

Playffa was not created in a day.  Don't try to recreate playffa at it's prime, try to recreate it at it's origin, and then start building from there :)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: letshavesomefun on May 17, 2015, 07:20:43 am
god created the world in 6 days thats why we have the sunday free....just imagine our free days would be based on ffarena creation lol we would have to work 5 months or smth till we get a free day :D
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 17, 2015, 07:39:39 am
Don't worry Renaud, I already told Yosh that we dont need to have the ladder up and running directly as long as we can have a bot autohosting different maps than only Market Square.

Also we already have a forum it is just not public (they are waiting to have the bot autohosting to make it public)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 17, 2015, 08:27:39 am
Yay! That's the way to go :)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on May 17, 2015, 08:32:38 pm
Yes Renaud is obviously right.

Sorry Seksi I cannot help, I am probably more busy than Keno and Yosh lol. Still I was curious on why there were delays
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 24, 2015, 08:42:45 am
Bot is now autohosting this rotation on w3arena (the other realms should be connected sooner or later)

1) Marketsquare
2) Flood Plains
3) Silverpine Forest Rdm Heroes
4) Monsoon
5) Twilight Ruins
6) Thunder Lake
7) Silverpine Forest
8) Anarchy Castle
9) Battleground
10) Gold Rush
11) Marketsquare
12) Divide and Conquer
13) Deadlock
14) Twilight Ruins
15) Monsoon Isles
16) Northshire
17) Deathrose
18) Silverpine Forest
19) StormShingle Mountain Rdm Heroes
20) Garden of War
21) Sanctuary
22) The Crossroads
23) Marketsquare
24) Bloodstone Mesa
25) Gold Rush
26) Mur’gul Oasis
27) Queen's Garden Rdm Heroes
28) Sanctuary
29) Andorhal
30) Emerald Shores
31) Northshire
32) Hearthglen Hills

Thanks Yosh !

No stats yet, and several things still have to be corrected
I'm gonna ask if we can have the FFArena forum public

Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 25, 2015, 10:38:20 am
Now, it's also connected to battle.net realms
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Dovekie on May 25, 2015, 07:28:05 pm
You guys are playing HOTS? That's literally all I play, with a little gtaV on the side. I'll get back into FFA eventually.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 26, 2015, 04:36:40 am
Yes, send me your skype in pm
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: massmoretanks on May 26, 2015, 01:03:54 pm
To which site does the bot auto-upload the replays ? Or is that all still in progress  :icon_cool:

Cheers,
massmoretanks
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 27, 2015, 03:12:19 am
massmoretanks : it's not done yet, everything will be posted here.


Forum page is now public
http://tft.w3arena.net/community/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=0cbdce6fd3d1c8cdfdfb096e0e6d5f7d
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|Mage on May 27, 2015, 06:31:17 am
Awesome work!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: fow on May 27, 2015, 06:32:47 am
i thought this was going to be w3a only tt
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: fow on May 27, 2015, 06:34:30 am
would make things alot easier on all you if you made it w3a relem only. js. but do what u must.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|Mage on May 27, 2015, 07:54:55 am
would make things alot easier on all you if you made it w3a relem only. js. but do what u must.

You'd see your player pool cut to about 1/10th of what it currently is or less
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on May 27, 2015, 01:47:17 pm
Much, much less.  The bots need to be connected to Battle.net (they are now), and rubattle.net (not yet) in addition to W3arena and others.  We had 1000's of unique players at playFFA, the games filled quickly because all of the different realms the bots were connected to.

It's nice to see some real progress! Next, hopefully the ladder/stats and more realms will come. 
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 27, 2015, 02:12:20 pm
wait... why would someone complain that it's connected to b.net? is there any downside? O_o
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Pinballmap on May 27, 2015, 02:26:53 pm
yes: hackers.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on May 27, 2015, 06:39:31 pm
only people that never organized anything wc3 wise would suggest measures as stupid as fow is suggesting.

w3a alone would never be enough. hacking cant be totally prevented however admins can prevent hackers to trust the top of the league. In the end that's what matters. Hackers can only create an account and piss off people for 10 games or so before being forced to move to another.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on May 29, 2015, 10:29:28 am
Hi all

Asking me for news on skype is useless, i post everything there when I learn of something new  :icon_wink:

:icon_arrow: I sent an email to rubattle.net staff to help us fix the issue we have to connect the bot to their server (maybe the bot got ip banned), no answers yet

:icon_arrow: I tried to create an FFArena account directly on the eurobattle.net realm, it says the name is already taken. So for now no bot connexion possible to this realm

:icon_arrow: no news concerning the changes of the game names

:icon_arrow: no news concerning stats/ladder yet
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 31, 2015, 08:33:15 pm
is the bnet bot down, or was it rename something else?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on June 01, 2015, 01:02:16 pm
Time for news

 :icon_arrow: We managed to fix the problem with eurobattle.net so it should be connected the next time the bot will be restarted, also the map Divide and Conquer might be removed (requires lots of players to start and we still have problems to connect all the realms, so it blocks the activity)

 :icon_arrow: A problem with the bnet realms occured like you noticed, weird problem that might be caused because the bot tries to reconnect to the servers every 2 minutes. According to Yosh a 3-4 days maintenance of the bot will help fixing that issue (so if the bot disappear for a few days, don't worry, it's normal)

 :icon_arrow: Problem with rubattle.net, for some reason it doesnt connect, and they didn't answer to my mail. I asked Ugri, and he seems to don't know why it doesn't work. So, for that realm, things seem more problematic at the moment.

 :icon_arrow: The stats database is ready and need to be connected, you might even be already playing for stats without knowing it (stats are here but are not showing)! But no worries, as soon as the stats appear, Yosh will reset them to 0 so everyone can start playing from the same point.
Also Yosh has to do some things before connecting it and we think it's a better idea to wait for the bnet realm and the eurobattle.net realm to be connected before starting the season. Good news!

 :icon_arrow: We told me the FFArena inhouse bot is working, even though i cant host on it? But i heared some you managed to use it (shave ?)
Any report on that will be appreciated

 :icon_arrow: Concerning the game names, apparently we need to rename the 500 maps one by one if i understood well. Seems weird for me since Ugri told us everything should be quick to do? Gonna ask Ugri about it. What is sure is that its not for right now.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on June 01, 2015, 01:03:51 pm
I precise the FFArena-inhouse bot is only findable on w3arena
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: zTsoso on June 01, 2015, 01:06:27 pm
Much obligied! Great work ponty i hope to hear news on the progress of ffarena and i would also encourage the community to get more involved. Let Yosh, Ponty and Keno know that we appreciate their work on our behalf.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: NoMercy2 on June 02, 2015, 07:15:23 pm
Good work guys but we need the bot conect to all servers and realms to be succes. i have the ips of the realms from serpi, rubattle, eurobattle, ombu.
Tell me if u need it.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on June 02, 2015, 08:21:39 pm
NoMercy2, yes I think they could use your help! I'll let Ponty know. 

Also check out this thread: http://tft.w3arena.net/community/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2444&p=9697#p9697
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on June 02, 2015, 10:29:45 pm
:icon_arrow: Concerning the game names, apparently we need to rename the 500 maps one by one if i understood well. Seems weird for me since Ugri told us everything should be quick to do? Gonna ask Ugri about it. What is sure is that its not for right now.

You start to understand how busy I was.

Yes you need to rename them, I did it a few times myself but as I understand you do not have 500 maps in rotation so... it should work just fine.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: FML|Renaud on June 03, 2015, 03:33:51 pm
by the way, there are ways to rename a batch of files at once (especially if it's to replace a word for another)
can't think of the name atm, but I'm sure google can help you out! :)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: NoMercy2 on June 03, 2015, 08:25:52 pm
Ok Seksi i will check it out!!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on June 07, 2015, 06:46:47 am
 :icon_arrow: Game names changed for the FFA hosting bot
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on June 07, 2015, 01:53:18 pm
Nice job.

Any progress on connecting the bot to BNet, eurobattle.net, rubattle.net, or the South American servers (working with NoMercy2...)?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on June 07, 2015, 03:16:39 pm
Yosh will turn off the autohosting FFA bot in the night for about a week to fix the realm problems
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: NoMercy2 on June 08, 2015, 06:29:56 pm
Ok tell me if u guys need some ips servers.
cya!!!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: SteppinRazor on June 13, 2015, 07:46:08 am
Looking forward to this.  Havn't played in 3+ months but Ill likely have some time to play this summer.  Woohoo!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: NoMercy2 on June 14, 2015, 07:36:23 pm
Steppin #1
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on June 15, 2015, 03:59:23 am
 :icon_arrow: Bnet servers connected again ! There was no need to turn off the bot since Blizzard did a maintenance which reset any sort of temp ban the bot was victim of
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on June 15, 2015, 06:16:28 am
You can also use the !votestart command to start games for now (at least 2 players needed)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: NoMercy2 on June 29, 2015, 05:24:03 pm
Ponty votestart ask for 4 votestarts man!!!!
tell me if u need ips from others server
cheers
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: NoMercy2 on June 29, 2015, 05:27:52 pm
Ponty i need admin rights i asked for it in war3arena ffa forum like 2 months ago.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on June 30, 2015, 12:12:03 pm
Ok I added you to admins

No the ips are not needed, there is another problem
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Lootnscoot124 on July 29, 2015, 01:59:41 pm
Is there currently a season running?  And if so where can we view the rankings and list of games played?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: zTsoso on July 30, 2015, 06:14:00 pm
There's no season running at the moment. Most people from the community are on summer holiday or busy.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Dovekie on July 31, 2015, 03:22:21 pm
isn't that the best time to have a season?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on August 02, 2015, 01:24:48 pm
http://ffarena.lunaghost.com/ladder/ffa/


It's preseason at the moment, waiting for all realms to be connected to start the first season (missing rubattle.net and eurobattle.net)

But there is a problem i don't know to solve with these realms

Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Lootnscoot124 on August 02, 2015, 09:58:06 pm
w3arena is not connected at the moment either.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 22, 2016, 12:28:36 pm
UPDATES HERE


1- hosted on :

- rubattle.neT  :Russia:
- eurobattle.net  :Germany:
- baltikum  :Lithuania:
- a Georgian server...  :Georgia:
- an American one...  :USA:
- Mambu  :Argentina:
- w3.europebattle  :France: / :USA:

- Indogamers  :Indonesia: (maybe soon)


2- Map changes

- Removed unpopular maps (Garden of War, Flood Plains, Battleground, Thunder Lake)
- All maps start with 4 players
- Rotation is : Market, Sanctuary, Deathrose, Silverpine, Northshire, Twilight Ruins, Deadlock, Gold Rush

3- Other changes

- kicking ping limit set to 270 from 230
- removed CGArena official maps in rotation, so it does not compete with ffarena bot for visibility on bnet

(I like this topic better because it talks about progresses, and we are doing some!).

GOOD NEWS

1- With more servers, more activity!

When it will get to something decent, I will set back the big maps to 6 players before starting.

2- Negociations with the owners of the Russian FFA bot

Having only one bot is better than two. We discussed with their two Melee bots admins along with Yosh and Ponty. Not going into details but they want to work together, one admin named Dan used to play on playffa so he knows what we could do together.

3- We could start a ladder if the system actually worked

Yosh has access to the database to we could reset the ladder and make seasons anytime.

To be solved

1- System does not work yet
Bot gives the winner to.... the first who leaves? Yeah it's seems that way and it makes no sense.

2- No access to the ftp
Yosh and apparently Keno, nobody ever had access to the ftp. It creates several issues
* cant have nice statistics website with map images and such

* cant have the game name automatically posted on front pages of website

* cant have the game result actually appearing in game results pages. The ladder still records the result, but does not show the outcome of the game.

3- No access garena yet
Because lunaghost must set it up.

No worries I think, if lunaghost really cant help, plan B is to use the russian bot already existing instead and connect it to the realms it cannot touch so far. We would need to negociate a full access to it though to run successful seasons.

Keeping you posted as soon as anything relevant happens!

~Ugri
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: letshavesomefun on February 22, 2016, 03:18:45 pm
u are awesome ugri :p had to be said
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on February 22, 2016, 04:10:33 pm
Great work.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on February 22, 2016, 06:40:16 pm
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/Cumulovirgo/tbyCt71456184023_zpswxm1fjrj.png) (http://s169.photobucket.com/user/Cumulovirgo/media/tbyCt71456184023_zpswxm1fjrj.png.html)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 23, 2016, 11:26:23 am
SOLVED

We have access to the ftp. We could have the scripts to show the game name front page again. But I lost them.....


Renauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud

help plz :)  :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Dovekie on February 23, 2016, 12:04:17 pm
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/Cumulovirgo/tbyCt71456184023_zpswxm1fjrj.png) (http://s169.photobucket.com/user/Cumulovirgo/media/tbyCt71456184023_zpswxm1fjrj.png.html)



Lol
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: SteppinRazor on February 23, 2016, 07:43:16 pm
Thanks for doing all of this Ugri, you had better play a few games after all of this!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 23, 2016, 07:53:38 pm
Thanks for doing all of this Ugri, you had better play a few games after all of this!

Thks buddy, I will try

Everything about the ftp is solved, meaning that we can see game names and fix results manually again. This is a huge step.

All praise Renaud

Next one is to fix winner detection!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on February 23, 2016, 07:58:05 pm
woot
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 26, 2016, 02:30:09 am
!afk command should be removed, please confirm!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: QQs on February 26, 2016, 02:43:44 am
!afk command should be removed, please confirm!

Y, it's removed. But why?:D
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 26, 2016, 03:51:53 am
because ladder is anonymous!

Ok now just need to fix winner detection, then Ponty can Take over


RIGHT PONTY? :)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: QQs on February 26, 2016, 04:07:23 am
because ladder is anonymous!

Ok now just need to fix winner detection, then Ponty can Take over


RIGHT PONTY? :)

and then ladder reset?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 26, 2016, 04:12:38 am
because ladder is anonymous!

Ok now just need to fix winner detection, then Ponty can Take over


RIGHT PONTY? :)

and then ladder reset?

yes ladder reset and ffarena season 1
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on February 26, 2016, 07:12:29 am
because ladder is anonymous!

Ok now just need to fix winner detection, then Ponty can Take over


RIGHT PONTY? :)

and then ladder reset?

yes ladder reset and ffarena season 1
And the commands used to see who you playing against are gone?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 26, 2016, 07:19:48 am
that was the one, unless there are several
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on February 26, 2016, 08:16:31 am
!afk and /ping on w3arena
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 26, 2016, 09:38:40 am
!afk and /ping on w3arena

I did not know the pin command on w3arena, it reveals all the palyers name or just w3arena's?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on February 26, 2016, 09:43:17 am
w3arenas. @ lobby and ingame
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: zTsoso on February 26, 2016, 03:52:11 pm
Thanks Ugri, you make me believe in the ffarena project again. I miss it now more than ever. 
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 26, 2016, 08:18:51 pm
Thanks Ugri, you make me believe in the ffarena project again. I miss it now more than ever. 

Thanks. At a point, I started wondering what was happening. But I thought nobody really cared, I mean the players. Pretty much it started with F10EX message that got me thinking that if somebody could help, that was probably me. Since some players still cared, Seksi wrote me to not long ago.

The deal was a full transfer with ladder reset, and no possibility to use the "playffa" brand name. Everybody agreed, but it seems that the bot provider was unable to simply do this transfer. Many things changed in the chore of the system, including the winner detection and some commands that was added and were not there before.

So what was needed was to follow the steps we followed back when we started, but the admins of the bot providers changed : less available and it seems, not as skilled as The original admin there that was exceptionnal in coding stuff. Our ladder is way different of any other bot ladder, as it requires a unic coding for it (unlike dotas and others TD type games there that exists). So we slowly get there as they are still trying and I do not want to blame nobody on why it did not work in the first place.

Also I wanted to come back to wc3 for the things I really loved to do. Shoutcasting with Hayder is not possible anymore, but organizing events is. This I can do it through w3arena, they gave me access to pretty much anything I need. So my plan is to organize multiple events like before (ffa, rdm heroes 1v1 and 2v2).

Of course we will start with FFA but I cannot picture a good FFA event organization without ffarena being operationnal. That would be akward for me since everything that I had built started with making this ladder.

Last but not least, I had a terrible reputation here and I wanted not to be remembered this way!

Cheers and thanks for your enthusiasm ztsoso!

~Ugri

Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Tleilaxu on February 26, 2016, 08:25:16 pm
Quote
rdm heroes 1v1
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: NoMercy2 on February 26, 2016, 10:51:43 pm
Thx Good u back Ugri, Im telling to this part of the wolrd u back so we can have the ombu eurobattle ffa guys we got before and made terrible headaches to known ffa players :D.
Tell me if u need some help u can contact me in this groups from facebook: ffa top ombu and warcraft comunidad 2.0
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on February 27, 2016, 09:18:49 am
@Nomercy : sure please inform them and get them on ffarena! there is an argentinian server, Mambu, thats the bot connects now.

@F10EX : /ping command to be removed on next server reboot, expected Monday
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 01, 2016, 12:47:25 am
at this time it should be completely fixed. please confirm

If there are motivated people to manage the ladder and fix the buggy results, it could start.

That wont be me, I was there to fix, i fixed!

We can start the ladder as soon as Ponty identified who is going to do what.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on March 01, 2016, 02:20:38 am

Race   Fixed
Flag   Fixed
Score change Fixed

Map: Unfixed
Download availability is set for less than a week I think, that will make hard for some game corrections, Id be willing, depending on what the ''Fail'' rate will be and how hard is it to correct somehting

gj ugri
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 01, 2016, 03:38:04 am

Race   Fixed
Flag   Fixed
Score change Fixed

Map: Unfixed
Download availability is set for less than a week I think, that will make hard for some game corrections, Id be willing, depending on what the ''Fail'' rate will be and how hard is it to correct somehting

gj ugri

fixing result is simple and fast.

However it puts you at risk of being flamed because you need to manually set the ELO won by the real winner and it is never enough. So it is simple and difficult at the same time.

I suggest that the one to do this is not a one competing for the top positions, for obvious reasons.

About 1/6 of results are wrong imo, but games in between noobs do not matter. Are fixed only games involving top 20-30 players.

I would say at most 3 or 4 games to be fixed per day.


The map thing is not a problem, it is not a bug, just an extra content we did not put back so far. If that is usefull it can be done real quick
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: SteppinRazor on March 01, 2016, 02:39:30 pm
Amazing work ugri.  Played a few games today (for the first time in a long while).  Most games were up and started within less than 5 minutes.  Got win in every game I won, except one where some guy hid buildings.  I think we are gonna see a lot more activity on the bot!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on March 01, 2016, 09:50:20 pm
Nice! 

What needs to happen to start the first season? 

I would think an advertisement/post on W3arena, and/or FFAMasters with links to the ladder, map pool, and a error fixing thread.  I wonder if it would be a good idea to have that error fixing thread here on FML (if that would be cool with Worpex/Pinball/Maga).  Cross promotion couldn't be a bad thing!  Something official (starting and ending dates) would be important I think.

I will start to stream and be active again and I'm sure sooner than later would be great as FML popularity is high too. 

Let's do it! What's next?
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 01, 2016, 10:50:51 pm
1- need an admin team. You guys need to contact Ponty asap

2- need to figure how to promote the ladder on w3arena, will talk to Yosh about it as we would like a dedicated webpage.

3- optional : trying to get an agreement with russian bot owner.


Note : not possible, not needed, and not wanted by any parties to have ladder forum on ffamasters for too many reasons. This will be on w3arena.net.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on March 02, 2016, 12:36:27 pm
I dont think FFArena should be done here, although I think it should be promoted here, though I think it should be talked through with yosh.

Can't anyone make a banner for w3arena wc3 launcher, the one you get on top when you're playing? Will yosh accept this?

What are the latest news ugri?
Again, I volunteer for being part of the fix team.

Edit: Played on the bot, everything you did was indeed fixed, and no way to see players name as i see.

The bot activity has increased immensely, and on the other hand the ggru bot games fill much slower, and no publicity was made as yet!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 02, 2016, 06:34:15 pm
Dear F10EX I am a professional. When I started playffa, no kidding I think I saw 8 FFA bots being born and dying. :D

The difference here is that the russian bot is well established with a working ladder.

Frankly it will all be about management and exposure. Exposure I can tale care of it but management no. Dealing with players is not something I wanna do anymore.

If year want to involve, you should give me any live chat contact you can have (I probably have them all) so we can communicate about it. Need to be seriously involved though so think well about it!

Cheers

~Ugri
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ponty on March 02, 2016, 07:03:55 pm
Hi, so yes we need people to help fixing errors, like I said to Ugri i will definitly not be the only one fixing errors, and it won't be my priority, we need at least 2 motivated people to help fixing them on a daily basis (ugri says there will be about 4-5 a day and it doesn't take long to fix, about 10-20secs per error).

I can take care of admin rights, announcements, ladder management, drama, sympo league etc. I already asked few trustworthy people if they could fix errors they answered they won't have the time

So post here if you can help :)

F10EX, thanks man, but i personnally don't know you yet  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Seksi on March 02, 2016, 09:52:54 pm
I will help however, but I don't think error fixing would be right as I will probably be competing. 

Who else would like to contribute/help?  We are almost there!

(Ugri, you sure you don't want to be involved in managing it...? You and Ponty could be the French Dream Team.)
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 02, 2016, 11:50:53 pm
(last time I did manage it, being the referee of the community in all and any disputes, I had 80% of the players yelling at me) So no thks.

Organizing events and working with Yosh is what i have in mind, helping the FFA ladder as much as I can if something is not working well. But I will not deal,with players, no waaaaay
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on March 03, 2016, 05:28:33 am
In my defense Ive some admin jobs in my past, the most powerfull and important was @ battle net's public maphack blacklist.

But if you don't trust me thats ok. I would never use power in my advantage.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 03, 2016, 06:40:06 pm
once an admin staff is formed, we will reset and start the new ladder season.

Keep me informed!
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 04, 2016, 09:46:28 am
Admin team is set up

Ability to post news on w3arena.net : check

Ladder season 1 expected to start next week, the time I get familiar with w3arena, and the new team gets familiar with ladder issues.

:)

Note : That had to make me postpone the FML Cup VI a little, I am a little overwhelmed at the moment. Once ladder starts, I will take care of this.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: SteppinRazor on March 04, 2016, 10:25:45 am
You are the man Ugri.  Where would FFA be without you???

Big Thanks though, seriously.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Hudkraem on March 04, 2016, 11:27:45 am
You are the man Ugri.  Where would FFA be without you???

Big Thanks though, seriously.

+1 on that
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on March 04, 2016, 11:47:01 am
+1 really, even though all (we) have been through I always gave you credit, and now more than ever
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 04, 2016, 09:41:55 pm
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Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: jAod on March 05, 2016, 02:38:25 am
guys said me pls - who distributed prizes M16 - why Dinamo is made more acetylenic after Magadansky of course - were awarded 4th place !!!!! ??? WTF !!!

THIS IS BULLSHIT !!! Amid Dinamo eshan doing blowjob game and all red player fail.life was stuppid and weakest

ADMINS - hellow - what are you doing ??? watch aggain pls repl - points are distributed unfairly !!!!!!! Maga #1 Dynamo #2 Fail.Life #3 Eshan #4


ty
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 06, 2016, 05:41:52 am
maps images now shown in game results

Edit : Ladder start Friday 23:00 EST
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 06, 2016, 08:24:21 am
http://tft.w3arena.net/news/details/267/FFA+is+coming+to+town/
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 07, 2016, 10:51:38 am
Hosting on Garena, thats a fucking gigantic step to glory

access to 5 rooms that are more filled with players individually than any servers we connect.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Hudkraem on March 07, 2016, 11:12:08 am
guys said me pls - who distributed prizes M16 - why Dinamo is made more acetylenic after Magadansky of course - were awarded 4th place !!!!! ??? WTF !!!

THIS IS BULLSHIT !!! Amid Dinamo eshan doing blowjob game and all red player fail.life was stuppid and weakest

ADMINS - hellow - what are you doing ??? watch aggain pls repl - points are distributed unfairly !!!!!!! Maga #1 Dynamo #2 Fail.Life #3 Eshan #4
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/58977145.jpg)

ty
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 07, 2016, 12:10:28 pm
You guys had to chose this topic as a trollfest :/

New map pool is here
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: F10EX on March 07, 2016, 02:35:20 pm
Need to remove !from command asap, people already abusing it to find some nationalities that are easy to say who the player is.

Lost temple RDM has 1 obs slot open and 1 player slot closed. its a forced 3 way, or some admin closed.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on March 07, 2016, 06:02:34 pm
You guys had to chose this topic as a trollfest :/

New map pool is here

it'd be nice to see new maps like anarchy castle, dalaran, etc. Also, maps should start with a minimum of four players instead of 6 or 8 like in some maps.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 07, 2016, 07:43:33 pm
well ffarena progress topic is no longer needed since it now works.

I suggest that any request about any update is now made on w3arena.net forum, where I will monitor it all.

@cumulo : I am ready to hear any map request of course, but you gotta start playing on the ladder first :p
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on March 07, 2016, 08:20:04 pm
yes, I've been playing quiet a bit on it. There are decent koreans and european players, and it truly represents FFA since there is little or no manipulation at all. I kinda find it more entertaining than playing inhouse where it just becomes dull to play against same styles and cookie cutters every day. Now now sympo is over and FML is pretty much 1 game every 2 weeks (your own games ofc) PlayFFA ladder would be a good platform for training, at least to keep the skills on point. There is room to do your own cookie cutters just like in inhouse games, but it's certainly more versatile since you really don't know them and even if they are noobs, they can play aggressively and ruin ur plans (which never happens in inhouse/FML games). So yeah I'll be playing some games, specially at night, but I think it really needs to start off with a minimum of 4 players, because some maps, for instance, bay of pigs never starts because people dislike that map and it takes like 20 minutes to go with 6 players. Maps like Emerald Shores, Frozen Deeps, Harvest of Sorrow, even thunder lake should be consider.
One last thing, the command !from should be deleted since it's abused by admins to identify players (me = PE, DV- = KZ, etc).
In general, great job with the ladder system and I've notied a lot more activity in it now that the score system is working, perhaps we can see more outsiders join FFA and adapt to different styles. Thanks for your contribution Ugri.
Title: Re: FFArena Progress
Post by: Ugrilainen on March 08, 2016, 12:13:22 am
hey I appreciate the comment and the feedbacks

fixing the system brought back activity, for those who like competition (w3arena / fml type players).

But most of it came from intense negociations with Russian Communinity/ bot / Garena admins, We lead those for 3 weeks with  :Kazakhstan: DV. It was the most important task after fixing the system to gain access to a larger player pool.

Having all maps starting with 4 players is not good. Many 3 ways from start (leaver, discs, ultra newb who cant build a base).  Also, the garena players like big maps with many players, and we need them to be as entertained as the better players, especially since they lose so much.

Bay of Pigs had a part of nostalgia for me, but I do not plan to keep it forever.

Now please, FFA Ladder discussion on w3arena.net, :)