FFA Masters League
League => Scheduling => Topic started by: junkerzam on May 01, 2017, 04:51:59 pm
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M1
:USA::ud: Audigy
:Sweden::ra: Junkerzam
:Peru::hu: Zs.SuperCumulo
:Switzerland::hu: Noexxx
Map choices:
1. Greenville Woods
2. Twisted FML
3. Market Square
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Hey guys
Monday - Friday: 8:30pm EST on ward
Saturday: 6pm EST on ward
Sunday: any time from 9am EST on ward.
I suggest this sunday 7th at 10am EST
map vote: Twisted Meadows FML
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I confirm for Sunday.
If others can't do it on Sunday I'll post my schedule for next week
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Sunday works for me. Vote marketsquare.
Hey noexx, dont forget to vote.
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that will work for me also, but either market or greenville. i veto twisted meadows due to human fast creep camps imba...
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Sorry I vote greenwille Wood
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Audigy you have to vote for one map. VOTE FOR MS PLEASE I BEG YOU
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just so we are clear:
3.20e Failure to Schedule
If a player fails to contact his opponents or admins for scheduling after 48 hours time, that player forfeits his right to schedule for that match.
Which means, your votes/veto don't count if it's done outside the 48 hour period.
@FML|WorpeX , @FML|Renaud we go sunday 10am EST.
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market
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right to schedule and map vetoes are different...thats my interpretation
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right to schedule and map vetoes are different...thats my interpretation
Schedule your match and veto map choices!
Meaning that the 48 hour period applies to both. Now you did post after the 48 hour period, which means you really have no right to call for a date, but since you play on sunday, there is no problem.
Given how admins structured the map vote proces, me and Junkerzam voted for different maps, Noex voted outside the 48 hour period, so we are going with the first choice, GreenVille woods.
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the rule is there to ensure people vote/post their schedule as soon as possible. audigy posted his map preferences but misunderstood that he could only vote for one map. he now clarified which of the two maps he wanted to vote for, no need to pull out the rulebook.
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the rule is there to ensure people vote/post their schedule as soon as possible. audigy posted his map preferences but misunderstood that he could only vote for one map. he now clarified which of the two maps he wanted to vote for, no need to pull out the rulebook.
If people donīt read the rules before coming into league, then thatīs on them, not me. Audigy and Noex posted their map preferences after the 48 hour period, and just like it states in the rulebook, you must schedule your matches within that period otherwise you lose your right to schedule and therefore to vote for a map.
Now, for your last sentence, I will pull out the rule book whenever I see it necessary, specially when people wait outside the time range they are given to reply.
Last season and even during BR we had updated the rules to a 2 day maximum to allow players to reply or lose all rights, please letīs kee it that way.
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Just to provide where Iīm getting my facts from: http://ffamasters.net/index.php?topic=2438
Scheduling: players lose their right to schedule a match if they don't post in the scheduling thread within 48 hours of the posting of the round (previously, this period was 3 days). If you know you will be without internet access for more than 2 days around the start of a round, contact an admin.
So, unless Audigy run out of internet monday night, which he didnt since we played a 4 way on silverpine, then we are moving forward with Greenville woods, one of the winners fom the make a world contest.
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Tough one. Cumulo is right, it should be 48 hours but it looks like it wasn't posted. Also since the calendar says veto I can understand the confusion. Map should be Greenville according to what the original intent was, but since we didn't announce that feel free to play on Market.
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Well if you really dont want to play MS cumulo its fine. Greenville wasnt your choice though so cant we just go MS? We are a majority who voted for it.
On another note, can we postpone the game until 6pm CET? That is 12 EST. Would be hugely appreciated, a family birthday celebration came up.
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12 EST is fine. Greenville wasnt my choice really, but the way it workd in previous events, the first map on the list gets to be played when there is no agreement, I think thatīs why admins intended the contest map to be first on the list.
I mean, noexīs vote nor audigyīs count, and since our ma choices differ, the most suitable solution is greenville, since itīs first on the list. Or was it the first on the list from the chosen maps, ergo TM FML @FML|WorpeX.
In any case, no MS.
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Well what I meant to say was, since it wasn't posted, the votes should count. Next week we will be more clear on the rules.
So, Market Square!
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Well what I meant to say was, since it wasn't posted, the votes should count. Next week we will be more clear on the rules.
So, Market Square!
you gotta be kidding, audigy posts outside the 48 hr period, which means, according to the rules, if he cant play on sunday at all, too bad for him, he forfeits the game unless ofc we agree to reschedule. But you are saying that even though he lost his right to schedule a time and date, he still holds his right to vote for a map, for a game where he just lost his right to say anything? given his late reply outside the 48 hour.
Iīm trying to follow the rule book here, this isnīt about me not wanting to play MS, itīs about following the rules to the letter, and I even provided link to what Red added last season.
Either go with Greenville or TM FML, but MS really falls outside the scope given his late reply.
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@FML|WorpeX , you denied reinforcementīs request to play TM because he replied outside the 48 hour period, now you are granting Audigyīs request to play MS because he also replied outside the 48 hour period, this is clearly logically inconsistent....; furthermore, for M3 you went with greenville woods, why? because it was the first map on the list, why canīt you do the same here?.
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Yeah, I denied it before I saw your posts and did research. I'll fix that. thx.
Highest map only counts when there is a tie. If there is 2 votes on TM and 2 on market we go TM. If its 1 vote on each map, we go Greenville. Highest Tied map is the one that is played on.
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Highest Tied map is the one that is played on.
Yes, but how can you consider TM for M3, or MS for M1, when their votes were outside of the 48 hr period.
My sole argument is this:
If admins post the round 1 matches on May 01, 2017, 04:51:59 PM ŧ, and one of the players doesn't reply until May 04th, then why does he still have the right for a vote on the map for the match. Hell, that player can't even say "sorry I can't play on the day you three agreed".
Even when Mog asked:
4 May 17, 13:41
Mog: hey red whats up with map voting? was there a cutoff like last season or do people's votes still count if they haven't previously voted
Red replied:
4 May 17, 19:40
[pm]red7z7: @Mog its the default 48 hours to do votes
Which means, M3 should go Greenville and this game should go TM.
Noex did rightfully replied about the date and time during the 48 hour period, but just like Audigy he didn't vote for a map until it was beyond the 48 hour mark; in other words, his vote for Greenville should also not count. I'm being as rigorous as possible with the rules because that's why they are made, "to be followed" and not bended when others misinterpret it.
As far as I can see, TM and MS are tied, and the highest tied is TM.
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I already told you why. Why do I need to keep explaining this ffs. We didn't announce the deadline and make players aware of it so we are waiving the deadline for this week and this week only.
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Ok for postpone @junkerzam
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well then, it's set for this sunday 7th at 12 EST on Market Square, but under no circumstance postponed for next sunday mother's day.
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whats so good about human cheesing TM anyways? ok for postpone.
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Iīve never played on TM in FML before, MS on the other hand, is the most overrated FFA map ever, tired of playing most of my games there -_-".
You could still change your vote @audigy :).
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MS is the best map in the history of maps, even real world maps included.
Thanks for the extension, rly look forward to sunday!