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Title: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 15, 2012, 07:07:20 pm
 :FMLN:

FML Season 12 Final:
:Germany: :ra: Slythe
:Bulgaria: :ud: 3wd.SimO
:Canada: :ne: Renaud
:France: :ud: Ugrilainen
Map: Harvest of Sorrow
:Harvest2:

The twelfth season has come to its thrilling climax with only four players remaining in the league! It has been an incredible journey for these talented players, so lets go right into the player introduction!

:Germany: :ra: Slythe: Hailing from 3rd place in the west division, Slythe gained a grand total of two wins before dominating in the semi-final to pick-up his 3rd. To be here, he had to bully his way past two top night elf players and the 3rd person master himself, Kruppe. Slythe won this game with style by going random and picking the ugly Far Seer to do his bidding.

Only one other FML winner has won a championship as Random... and that's the grandmaster F-L-Y himself. Slythe would like to join him to become the second and write his own name down in the hall of fame!

:Bulgaria: :ud: 3wd.SimO: Some people say that FFA is all about luck. Others say that diplomacy influences luck the most and is the best tactic. The Undead king, Magadansky would say that its all about mechanics. Few players in FML have the micro ability that Magadansky does and that skill gets him some big wins. His biggest, is likely the Season 7 Trophey. It becomes very difficult to refute the strategy maga brings to the table when the man has won a championship already.

In this game, he hopes gain his second crown and join KoW3.Target and Wrecktify as the most winningest players of all time!

:Canada: :ne: Renaud: This darn player just can't keep himself OUT of the grand finals! Renaud is no stranger to high-stress games like this. In fact, he seems to do BETTER in such an environment. He has now won two semi-finals in a row. Before that, he became the unofficial winner of season 9. Such a long list of accomplishments seems to only be matched by the amount of times he has made it to the finals. He is one of the most experienced players in this match and has been itching for an FML win since he joined the league sometime around when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

Renaud also wants to claim this win the name of the Night Elves as none have ever done that before. Perhaps he will be the first!

:France: :ud: Ugrilainen: It's a good thing that ugri is no longer an FML admin! We have a rule here... if two admins match each other in a game, they must suicide each other. If 3 match, the forth person gets teamed out! Had ugri not left the staff, he and Renaud would be forced to suicide and make this the worst grand final of all time. Luckily, we are spared of such nonsense!

To be honest though, Ugri shouldn't really be here. He never applied for FML Season 12, instead, giving up his spot to allow another player to play. After week 2, that player quit and Ugri rejoined the league to miraculously pick up enough points to sit him at 8th place in the standings... however, only the top 7 advanced to the semi-finals... but when Nooblex dropped, the man who win the tie-breaker was Ugri himself. To top things off, he then proceeded to win his semi-final game by using a his multi-race fist to pound his enemies into dust.

So here he is, the man with the greatest story to tell about getting here, is here. Now just needs to put the cherry on the top and win the crown!


Good luck to all players!!!!
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Kruppe on May 15, 2012, 07:27:16 pm
What the fuck!

Kruppe wishes all those players to win, because they are his favorites!

Sly, who brought Kruppe to the league. A very, very good player whose ability to analyze games shows his unique skill the best.

Maga, who is Kruppe's undead idol since so many years. (one can't that see by Kruppe's play style, but Kruppe is world's biggest Maga fan (ask my girlfriend, like "what are you doing?" - "watching a maga replay!" - "ok, I join!"))

My friend Renaud, whose strategic abilities and intellect are sometimes overwhelming. A kind and very adorable player, Kruppe appreciates your work and play for FFA the utmost! Cheer!

My friend Ugrilainen, Kruppe is fire, Ugri is water but Kruppe thinks of you as a brother in mind. You have terrible games and then again you play flawless, unorthodox and clever.

The only flaw is: my good friend Sir Wrecktify is missing.

Happy,
Kruppe
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 15, 2012, 08:26:30 pm
Actually Slythe could be the first real random player to win the finals, F-L-Y picked orc!
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: kazupi on May 16, 2012, 02:30:10 am
Very nice description again, Worpex! I just hope Renaud won't pick :hu: again...? GL to all of you
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 16, 2012, 07:31:11 am
don't worry, I only picked :hu: because I wanted to creep the corners with 2 hawk, and try to do a straight tech like htrt!
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Pinballmap on May 16, 2012, 11:06:58 am
Gl to all finalists...im hoping that Slythe will win this! Would be great to have the first german fml champion :)
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: kazupi on May 16, 2012, 01:03:49 pm
kk keeps my hope alive the next champion is gonna be a  :ne:  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Slythe on May 16, 2012, 01:50:44 pm
nice coverage worpex ^^.

some things i want to add about the participating players.

Renaud is indeed very experienced ffa-player who picked up some pretty nice wins in high profile games. 2nd time in a row being in a final is a big thing.

he won the koffa tournament in a close final, in which maga played aswell.

i played a lot of games with him, when we played the fml ladder system and also some during s10-12 time.

it seems he wonīt go into renaud-rage mode when he is getting creepjacked or attacked what often emboss his games ^^.


Maga is probably with most experienced fml player, with 1 championship / 1 final and 1 semi. We played a lot of games together over the past years, which i often enjoyed, even though i came up short many times. Unfortunateley this has changed in the past months. The last, maybe 6-7 games, were not good ones from my pov.
Especially the r6 s11 game where we both needed a win to have a shot at the semis ended disappointing for both of us. But for me it sucked much more how he handled that game and i am really not ok how he reacted to it at the gamethread on ffareplays, where he accused me of not playing for the win / only making him lose, which both was not the case. ( i wish he woulda talk directly to me via ggc/in bnet , but okay, now i am reversing this )

After that, our following games and outside game communication was bad, atleast from what i felt.

I was wondering how he played in the end int he t1 units/2 hero only fungame on silverpine, which was btw a final 3-way between renaud, him and me  :icon_wink:.

Also he had nice spawn/-itemluck in the our last games and ppl where doing him favors, which i did not like, but thatīs  a thing i was caring about  because of foregoing stuff, i guess.


Ugri was not active when i start playing fml and i just heard through others about him and that he is an oldschool fmlplayer/admin.

We played a couple of times in bnet and cg/fml as far as i remember. He always was a threat with very good decisionmaking and i lost atleast 50% of those games.

Especially two games are in my memory when he was ud, using garg/eco hit and run vs my elf. One time i got outplayed and the other time i won narrowly close.

He is nowadays very busy but knows how to kick ass in ffa where u donīt need (much) practice to succeed. Thanks to his 2n2ing together with RENAUD his micro is much better than he wants us to believe :icon_wink: .

So, about me. i hope my experience from ladderseason 2 where i was playing in the final aswell and the semifinal s10 can help me to make the right decisions in that upcoming final, which has some nice surrounding stories, which can either make it a nice or a bad game, letīs find it out at the weekend :icon_cool:.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Magadansky on May 16, 2012, 03:31:27 pm
I dont hold grudges to you, slythe, just you went to suicide mode in the mentioned game which annoyed me highly since you were the one trying to rush me and then going mad that you lost badly the deciding battle. I havent talk about it with you since I dont know your aka in bnet at all, not because I do it on purpose and its not like I like to discuss something thats already in the past but it seems you are still not over it. I dont really like your comment at all, especially with "doing favours". After all, not in my semi someone was let to hoard 30k and then not teamed at all.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Slythe on May 16, 2012, 04:09:32 pm
I dont hold grudges to you, slythe, just you went to suicide mode in the mentioned game which annoyed me highly since you were the one trying to rush me and then going mad that you lost badly the deciding battle. I havent talk about it with you since I dont know your aka in bnet at all, not because I do it on purpose and its not like I like to discuss something thats already in the past but it seems you are still not over it. I dont really like your comment at all, especially with "doing favours". After all, not in my semi someone was let to hoard 30k and then not teamed at all.

i was not referring to any semifinal game, i was referring to games we had together.

and hell no, i was not going in suicide mode in that game. i was going in 'survival mode and make that guy, who hunts me into regretting and stopping it, aswell as getting time for others to hit him '. U never stopped chasing me or asking me to stop.

Btw, I was hitting q-veta aswell . And if u remember or even watch the replay, close to the point where my last builds got destroyed i came with bm and small army of air into your base to help you vs johny, after u said johny woulda attack u at ur base. But he already left and since u woulda attack me anyways, i was like ' w/e , i kill 1-2 gargs before i go obsing, since u would have attacked and killed my stuff there, anyways. ( u probably interpreted it,  that i smash my last stuff into you for trying to make you lose, which was not the case )

If i would not win, i was rooting for you in that game ( check obschat after i join them ) over either q-veta or johny getting the win, but i wonīt
just hand it to you on a silvertablet, e.g. feeding you and then leaving ( which woulda result in a instant teaming against you, anyways ).

oh and u complain about bm-harras and suicide, but u never thanked me for feeding you 2 heroes and 60 supply units in one single fight.

Also , again at that point it was a 4-way, how can you suicide someone in a 4-way, seriously.
Suicide happens in 3-ways.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Magadansky on May 16, 2012, 04:47:46 pm
You try way too hard to prove something different than the situation which was evident for everybody else, not only me. Anyway, just move on.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 16, 2012, 04:53:49 pm
Oh good, some drama to make the finals even better! *grabs popcorn*
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Lightweight! on May 16, 2012, 06:06:31 pm
Actually i remember that game pretty well sly, and your chances to win were close to 0, but you were hitting maga for killing you, although he has been teamed by 2 people already (johny.boy and Q?). So you pretty much destroyed his chances for the final, because he kinda finished you off. There was really no way maga could have won this game, no matter how he played.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 16, 2012, 06:48:20 pm
the plot thickens
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Ugri2 on May 16, 2012, 07:40:40 pm
I am usually a maga groupie so I remember it. It was indeed a suicide.

When maga/Slythe won their semi I was happy since I was cheering for them in both their matches. I have no hope of winning mine.

Now I have mixed feeling since I've beaten maga only once (the famous 4 destros ending which is the closest ending ever ever in a ffa game) and Slythe I dont recall beating him ever. It's true I dont play much.

I was even rooting for persuade in his semi, for not having to fight my big buddy Renaud who is the best guy ever I met online  :icon_mrgreen:

Guys... I dont want to hurt you... just let me hoard.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: ins on May 16, 2012, 08:31:32 pm
Ugri's gonna win this.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Slythe on May 17, 2012, 05:41:05 am
@ maga

sad, all my effort trying to explain to you what happened and what were the motives behind my actions  ignored by you.

there is no doubt that for neutral observers a nonstop bm harras appears not as the most symphatic way to show that i like you and i can understand that the majority of those observers /replayviewers does not like it and even call it a suicide.

still it does not change that it was neither an intentional or unintentional suicide, so you and they are still wrong.
when i gave up my main, after u were already on the move to destroy it, i needed to keep you busy.

I already tried to tell you that there were a lot of possibilies for you to change the outcome of the game with interfering in the bm harras scenario, like not trying to destroy my base and finish me after you won that fight, when you had much better heroes and a counterarmy ( that can hardly be called winning a fair fight ) . Also u  could handle the bm harras way better, play overall better, making better decisions.

But again you prefer to blame me exclusiveley for your loss, when u at first gained through me such a herolvl advantage. But u underestimated how well i can use a single high lvl, stacked blademaster and then making someone, who was no threat at that point, your enemy with chasing him across the map.

My chances to win were slim after i mess up that big fight and had to go into guerilla mode, but i def. coulda have won if iīd get the humans on you ( and not just occasionally destroying your expand ), giving me time to rebuild/grabbing mines. too bad i kept losing gold with using tpīs/pots , while no one let me gain enough gold, meanwhile you three did not fight enough to lower your amount of cash. Ofc near to my exit due to losing all builds, i realised i most likeley wonīt win it anymore. Thatīs why I explained to you my last attack. Which was a try to help you against johny, who i damaged the least in that game since he was fair to me ( although he coulda let me one expand ! ).

So again, that game went bad for me in many ways, but thatīs no problem for me, it can happen. On the other hand your stubbornness lead to your demise in that game, while u come up with some crazy after-game comments ( i probably shoulda answer to those in a pretty analytic way, instead of mixing some jokes, but it was just too funny how you  making up such a big story with me being responsible for you missing another (semi)final ( 1 X champ, 1 X final, 1 X semi and now final again, tztz ) when it was mostly your own fault, looking at ur play/decisions overall game.
I donīt like being accused for something, which is not the case. We coulda solve this directly after the game in ggc, where u seemed fine or at a later point, but no, u suddenly start blaming me over ffareplays.com.

I bet u wonīt even read this here or answer to it, i tried my best to make things clear. Feel free to stay stubborn and ignorant towards this, i cannot do more than writing all that, explaining it.

Btw, u did ignore that i mentioned  the t1 units/2 hero game, where i felt, that YOU suicided ME.
I take that ignoring as a 'yes' for your actual suicide ( which u soleley executed bcuz of our previous game )- so much for your theory ' trying to prove hard' is a sign for whatever , the opposite is more likeley !?!

But still, after all that i will play my best, being neutral to everyone, even to you (although u wanted me to hit johny instead of you in that game, cuz 'i should know
that he is a hoarder/easier to tome' ). But iīd appreciate it, when u can work out a plan for me for the final, thank you already ( PM it to me ofc ).
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Slythe on May 17, 2012, 05:49:17 am
Actually i remember that game pretty well sly, and your chances to win were close to 0, but you were hitting maga for killing you, although he has been teamed by 2 people already (johny.boy and Q?). So you pretty much destroyed his chances for the final, because he kinda finished you off. There was really no way maga could have won this game, no matter how he played.

as normal u are mixing up facts with ur pov to use it in a manipulative way.

yes, my chances were not high- close to 0 ? NO ! btw, what are u doing in a game ( 3way)where ur chances are not good to win. For example in a game on marketsquare with darkermirror/humanstar in a fun-cg.

I was hitting maga, but how can i hit him when he killed me? He was chasing someone, who was in a really bad position, whose only options were to harras/manip or to leave the game ( i was considering this a short moment ).

And no, he was not being teamed at that point already. He was only really teamed after his try to team q-veta out,  and then q-veta returned the favor and johny seeing the chance of capitalizing on it.

He had his chances to win, he did not play smart enough.
No, he did not finish me off, q-veta helped him a lot.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Slythe on May 17, 2012, 05:52:53 am
I am usually a maga groupie so I remember it. It was indeed a suicide.

When maga/Slythe won their semi I was happy since I was cheering for them in both their matches. I have no hope of winning mine.

Now I have mixed feeling since I've beaten maga only once (the famous 4 destros ending which is the closest ending ever ever in a ffa game) and Slythe I dont recall beating him ever. It's true I dont play much.

I was even rooting for persuade in his semi, for not having to fight my big buddy Renaud who is the best guy ever I met online  :icon_mrgreen:

Guys... I dont want to hurt you... just let me hoard.

u did beat me in a twilight game on bnet. i was elf with dr/potm/naga u were standard ud.
u did beat me in r3 s11 game with l77 in it, but u came up short against him.

When u are calling it a suicide from your groupie-pov, i have understanding for it :icon_wink:.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|WorpeX on May 17, 2012, 06:28:51 am
TL;DR. I've yelled at Ebo for double posting and now you're triple posting. wtf. lol
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Magadansky on May 17, 2012, 08:14:18 am
Omg, slythe, stop trying to make it look different. You had no mines, you were using your saved gold to harass me until the end. You knew that they both hoarded and they wont let you mine and were happy that you just harassed my economy until your last gold got used in tps/halls (Q helped mainly with scout since you were hiding, not mining). Just stop making it look like you were playing for the win. I also offered you to stop since they hoard but you refused.

What is the problem with admitting that you suicided? I am not holding any grudges, you were not the first, you wont be the last. Even Lw, who nobody can say that he is a "groupie" of mine, says that you did exactly that. Just move on and stop writing essays with ridiculous explanations how you were actually playing for the win.

EDIT: And I dont put ladder or fun games around as examples of a suicides of mine. They are not FML games, especially when the semi is on the map.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Ugri2 on May 17, 2012, 08:29:57 am
Ok guys just kill each other, I'll think about something to get rid of renaud (I plan to call his mum, pretending to be her internet provider agent, and ask her to restart the router)
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Q-veta on May 17, 2012, 08:44:24 am
Slythe you did suicide Maga and I thank you for that because he's such a jerk he suicided me in the exact same game! Should have sent 2 tanks to his base...
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 17, 2012, 08:54:41 am
lol ugri is being evil!
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Lightweight! on May 17, 2012, 09:57:36 am
 :icon_mrgreen: UGRI you crafty crafty ass.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Slythe on May 17, 2012, 10:57:48 am
@ maga

u mad, son.

i wonīt even start to correct ur false statements, since i already did it in the ffareplays-thread. oh there was something... stubborness and ignorance, right.

accept your loss, try not to be a sore loser next time. you lost because of your mistakes and not by an alleged suicide.

it obiously was too much for you; attending for a fml-season and not making it to the semis the first time, think about all the other good players who did not make it to a semi just once.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Magadansky on May 17, 2012, 01:39:46 pm
Ye, slythe, I am stubborn, no one else except me thinks you suicided... Oh, wait! And, yes, I cared after the game but not now. Obviously, you do though, since you brought it up again.
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: FML|Renaud on May 17, 2012, 02:18:31 pm
man... if only wreck would have won, we could have had 2 grudge match at once!

Now I need to create some drama with ugri before the weekend :/
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: kazupi on May 17, 2012, 03:46:50 pm
So much drama :icon_mrgreen: Should be an interesting final!
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Slythe on May 17, 2012, 04:00:00 pm
Ye, slythe, I am stubborn, no one else except me thinks you suicided... Oh, wait! And, yes, I cared after the game but not now. Obviously, you do though, since you brought it up again.

The majority ( there were only a few who spoke up ! ) is always right, of course !

Especially when the player, who was executing the alleged suicide KNOWS with what intentions he was acting... classic. I tried to explain again to you, after the dust had settled, but even after u calm down, u are still misjudging & not believing.

Well, i cannot do more, as i stated before, think whatever u want, but consider u might be wrong. I did not expected that uīd change ur mind, but it was worth a try.

And yeah cpt. obvious, ofc i still care a bit about it, but not about the game or the loss, but about ur behaviour after the game. I wanted to bring that up before the game, since during the final it would be inappropiate, i guess. :icon_smile:

now, indeed , itīs up to others to promote/hype & sell the gloomy,bloody sunday game  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Redkeekee on May 17, 2012, 05:10:09 pm
Guys... I dont want to hurt you... just let me hoard.

IT'S A TRAP!  DON'T LISTEN!
Title: Re: FML S12 GRAND FINALS!
Post by: Ugri2 on May 17, 2012, 07:47:36 pm
man... if only wreck would have won, we could have had 2 grudge match at once!

Now I need to create some drama with ugri before the weekend :/

Keep sucking in AT and it should seal the deal!!!


:D