Bah! Players don't know what they want! Only I do! MUAHAHAHHAAH!!!!!!
But in all seriousness... 32 players will happen. Anything passed 4 rounds and I might want to slit my wrist... but we'll see.
I think the point system change will make the games more exciting to watch instead of having hour long stand-offs. Hopefully making them shorter as well. It promotes aggressive and strong play over sitting around all game and trying to snipe the win at the end. I do want to remind people that their was only 6 (I think) games where the winner didn't have the highest score this season. Almost all of them happened because two players teamed the strongest player to death. (Or from Abusing human heroes. *glares at johny*)
I'm not really too big of a fan of the 16 player playoff idea. Thats just far too many players. Truth is, after 5 weeks of playing FFA the amount of people who continue to be active from the original 32 quickly falls to a much smaller number of 20-25. At that point, you might as well just have everyone in the play-offs. Almost no reason to have the regular season in the first place. Sadly, its completely unavoidable to have a season where all 32 players remain active the entire time.
For example, in this season we've lost/replaced almost 10 people. Granted, this is a larger group, but even if we only lose 5 people in a 32 player tournament... thats only 11 players not getting into the playoffs who are still active and want to be in. Completely loses any prestige that it had in the past if more than half made it.
I agree with daselend and others about the +4 for top score problem. It encourages a certain style of play, but all styles of play should be equally encouraged. Like CampandSpank style would never get +4 points, even if he won his games. So its like you are saying getting three heroes and being really good at micro deserves points more than just winning the game...
If i chim raze everyones bases i dont get many points, same with tanks, same with manipulating for the win. basically +4 is a micro/battle/score reward...but many times the crazy guy who rapes everyone and gets high heroes doesn't deserve win because he played stupid and aggroed everyone even if he has good micro (solo players). why should he get +4 at end?
So what you're saying is, this discourages people from cheesing in order to win a FFA game? I see nothing wrong with that.
Great to hear that Shen! I'm definitely hoping more wc3 players discover the gametype as well. :D We play on Garena in the Masters League channel quite often, I would love to see you stop by and play some games with us!
And back on topic; Personally, I sort of want to do a tournament next. I voted for FML Open, but KoFFA 2 would be great as well!
You can't get highest score off of resources alone. It just isn't possible. Not to mention that neither of the other 3 players would let you farm resources for 2 hours anyway.
Or it might encourage to hoard up because you will get the hero score eventually (only based on levels, not on kills) and rise up in resource and unit score...
lol, what? You can get a resource score by doing that, but thats about it. To get a good hero/unit score you need to fight. No way in hell are you going to "get hero levels eventually" as any race except for orc (Oh wait, you are orc. heheheh). Still, unit score is about killing and leveling structures more than it is about building units. (even then, you need to lose units in order to build enough to have a good score due to cap).
I can go for a 6 round league if that is what the players want.
The admins have decided in MSN a few days ago that we will be making the following change:
A match winner now only receives 21 points (as opposed to 25). However, +4 bonus points will be awarded to the player with the highest score in a match. This than will make the winner have 25 points if he had the highest score. This has the possibility of breaking ties as well as giving players a better incentive to play more aggressively!
We are going to be implementing a player cap for next season as well at 32 players.
Lastly, I am 100% against the idea of giving subs points for winning. Sorry Seksi. Was a great write up, but Ugri explains my opinions on the matter very well. And yeah, scheduling can only either be 1 week or 2 weeks, nothing else.
Yeah, the people who didn't play in FML before were seeded by those who played on garena. The ones I knew from FML before were seeded based on what I remembered their skill to be. What kind of seeding would you expect from me? Should I have just magically known what everyones skill was? The scene had been dead for almost 2 years. The seeds were as good as they were ever going to get.
You know how we use to seed : all admins vote and rank and here we go we have the seeds
Yeah, the people who didn't play in FML before were seeded by those who played on garena. The ones I knew from FML before were seeded based on what I remembered their skill to be. What kind of seeding would you expect from me? Should I have just magically known what everyones skill was? The scene had been dead for almost 2 years. The seeds were as good as they were ever going to get.
I see nothing wrong with these rules. Tie suck, but as far as resolving them goes, their isn't much one can really do. We're looking into ways to prevent ties from happening as often in the future, but these rules are still going to be around (except the playing for second one).
Congrats guys! It was not an easy season for anyone. I'm especially sorry for Seksi and Eshan who got hurt by the tie-breaker rules. Hopefully we can make things better for next season and not have large ties like this happen again!
Those who didn't make it: Better luck next time! Thanks for playing and I hope you join us again for next season! :D
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