FFA Masters League
General => News => Topic started by: ZsSuperCumulo on October 21, 2016, 05:07:53 am
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With the help of Worpex, Mog and SuperCumulo, we present:
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not finished yet, but i love it already :D
edit: btw where can i find the updated table for the eternal fml statistics?
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WOW, this is really great work. I love you guys for putting the Guile (Wreck) Theme into it :D. Looking forward to the next one. And probs to Cumulo for making the video.
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Great job guys !!!
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not finished yet, but i love it already :D
edit: btw where can i find the updated table for the eternal fml statistics?
It'll be posted when the series concludes!!
Thanks everyone!! Glad you're all enjoying it.
Edit: Smerbeck sighting in the comments!
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Nice try by PBM to get a spoiler.
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Can't say I agree with all of these (mostly Eshan), but still, great work and looking forward to the next episode.
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great stuff, guys ! keep up the good work !
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@laxu for what I understood the ranking is based on total FML wins
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And yeah, I love this!
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yeah it is based on statistics and not personal taste.
Good idea btw to give the raw statistics a voice (basically two ^^) and some nice visuals.
Just for the record bcuz Mog and Worp were talking about it:
Btw, i am around since season 8. (i learned about FML by the end of S7 and got to know some ppl and played with them beginning with S8)
But i did not want to participate in the Season cuz from the already heated customgames i assumed those league games would be super complicated and drama-prone and i did not want getting involved in it.
I tried it anyway :-D with S9, which got cancelled midway and then i played S10-15, i think. Not sure with s16/17, but i think i did not attend them.
Was inactive from end of 2013-mid of 2016. Then i observed final of S22 and played S23.
I played 5 K.O. games: 1 quarterfinal, 3 semifinals and 1 final.
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That's how you pronounce Eshan? I always thought it was E-Shan
Also awesome idea, loving it!
Also think there are going to be more top 15 players that came from solo than you expect considering the number 1 player I presume (Maga) came from the solo world. As did SoSo
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That's how you pronounce Eshan? I always thought it was E-Shan
Also awesome idea, loving it!
Also think there are going to be more top 15 players that came from solo than you expect considering the number 1 player I presume (Maga) came from the solo world. As did SoSo
We actually talked a bit more in depth about what I meant about that in the raw audio, but it seems to have gotten cut for the video. There is a big difference between players who started out as solo players and went to FFA and players who were professional solo players and played FFA on the side. Duck is the later, Maga would be the former. There used to be a league in the solo wc3 scene called WC3L, it was basically the pinnacle of WC3 when it was around. Duck played in it with the team vVv.
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Just for the record bcuz Mog and Worp were talking about it:
Btw, i am around since season 8. (i learned about FML by the end of S7 and got to know some ppl and played with them beginning with S8)
But i did not want to participate in the Season cuz from the already heated customgames i assumed those league games would be super complicated and drama-prone and i did not want getting involved in it.
I tried it anyway :-D with S9, which got cancelled midway and then i played S10-15, i think. Not sure with s16/17, but i think i did not attend them.
Slythe, this is awesome since u played in my first custom game with FML-players.
The map was death rose and u didn't like the way I played. U flamed me quite a bit :D
After that game I had to consider twice if I want to apply to FML if it is this hostile environment. Im happy I applied since I have had tons of fun.
In retrospect it was probably just aggressive manip but I wasn't used to that :D
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That's how you pronounce Eshan? I always thought it was E-Shan
Also awesome idea, loving it!
Also think there are going to be more top 15 players that came from solo than you expect considering the number 1 player I presume (Maga) came from the solo world. As did SoSo
We actually talked a bit more in depth about what I meant about that in the raw audio, but it seems to have gotten cut for the video. There is a big difference between players who started out as solo players and went to FFA and players who were professional solo players and played FFA on the side. Duck is the later, Maga would be the former. There used to be a league in the solo wc3 scene called WC3L, it was basically the pinnacle of WC3 when it was around. Duck played in it with the team vVv.
Fair enough, I get what you're saying now in the distinction between part time and full time.
On a side-note though I would argue you're over-estimating Duck during his peak and underestimating Maga. I love Duck, but his strongest results came after the peak of WC3 had passed. A year ago I'd argue he was actually one of the best WC3 solo players since he never seemed to lose any skill, however he never put up big results when there was competition in the US scene. Longwalk, Nilkarf, Boo, Shreik, Strifeco, Legato, Qazzi, HH, Phreak, Shortround, Wizard and even Newbiee and Inclnerator were considered better US solo players back in the day.
In addition while vVv was impressive for it's time period, it wasn't one of the top US teams. Verge, Tek-9, u5, and aG all played during tougher time periods and had better results in international leagues. Though as one might expect, none of them did particularly well. I also honestly don't remember vVv taking part in a WC3L season, which season did they qualify for? I presume it was one of the last ones.
Maga on the other hand was one of the top Bulgarian players, and I know 3wD competed in WC3L when it was during it's peak and actually did reasonably well (believe they beat 4Kings one season for their only loss), don't know if Maga was on their starting lineup then.
Not really sure what the point of all this was to be honest, aside from the fact that I think you are looking through Duck's US play and (vVv) through some rose-tinted glasses. Though vVv won for drama hands down haha. Anyways, I get your distinction between full time FFA player and solo players who just do it as a hobby, but disagree with your assessment of Duck.
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For the record, here are the stats:
11th: zTsoso | 12 wins - 9 second - 9 third - 5 last | 3 Bonus - 34% - 508 points
12th: PLZLEAVEDUCK | 11 wins - 12 second - 8 third - 4 last | 4 Bonus - 31% - 499 Points
13th: Slythe | 11 wins - 7 second - 6 third - 7 last | 0 Bonus - 35% - 440 Points
14th: Eshan | 11 wins - 6 second - 3 third - 8 last | 0 Bonus - 39% - 405 Points
15th: Tyrant66 | 11 wins - 4 second - 7 third - 0 last | 0 Bonus - 50% - 385 Points
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@mage, I've always pronounced it E-shan as well, but worpex and I talked about it and decided proper english would probably be esh-en but could be wrong!
slythe that makes sense because my first season I qualified for was s16, and I didn't remember you playing until later seasons, but I knew you were still sometimes on the forums and when I watched seasons 13-15 I remember you playing in them some (I wasn't good enough to qualify for those seasons).
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Yes its pronounced E-shan
The way you pronounce it in the video is wrong :(((
Someone could have just asked me!
Also FYI - I have a lot more wins than 11...these stats are way off lol
I played and won a lot more games in season 10-20 than it accounts for - maybe because I played under AlPacinoReturns, and I also played in seasons 4-7 and won some games
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No, yeshan, it was dovekie not you
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Yes its pronounced E-shan
The way you pronounce it in the video is wrong :(((
Someone could have just asked me!
Also FYI - I have a lot more wins than 11...these stats are way off lol
I played and won a lot more games in season 10-20 than it accounts for - maybe because I played under AlPacinoReturns, and I also played in seasons 4-7 and won some games
I'm not saying the stats are perfect. AlPachinoReturns games are included in your stats. However, there are a lot of games that aren't counted towards these stats, like anything prior to S10 and any games that are over 4 players. If you can give me links and proof that you have over 11 wins from games that qualify for these standings, I'll gladly update.
Sorry about saying the name wrong. :( I'm sure i'll pronounce Renaud's name wrong too, even though I know perfectly well how its pronounced. haha I just can't seem to break the habit.
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Yes its pronounced E-shan
The way you pronounce it in the video is wrong :(((
Someone could have just asked me!
Get over it I don't think anyone has ever said my name right.
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Yes its pronounced E-shan
The way you pronounce it in the video is wrong :(((
Someone could have just asked me!
Get over it I don't think anyone has ever said my name right.
Can confirm. Or maybe it's just me making others pronounce it wrong =D
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Great video though! Since you guys mention the stats there would be good to show them briefly on the screen as well for reference. Also each fight scene should label the players colors like was done with the s23 highlight video, and maybe instead of just showing the palyer colors at the start of each clip, keep them up during the whole clip, but perhaps slide them over to the side and make them smaller - could be a nice animation.
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Great video though! Since you guys mention the stats there would be good to show them briefly on the screen as well for reference. Also each fight scene should label the players colors like was done with the s23 highlight video, and maybe instead of just showing the palyer colors at the start of each clip, keep them up during the whole clip, but perhaps slide them over to the side and make them smaller - could be a nice animation.
The stats will be added for the next video, as for the colors and names of the players + animation I'm not sure since I already used them for S23 Highlights. I mean, I don't like to be repetitive with what I do. Perhaps something I should do is take the video down and rework on it and reupload it that way the pattern is the same for the whole series rather than one being "less acceptable" than the others.
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fuck me, I should have uploaded a test first rather than on the FML account.
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That is crazy perfectionism right there. The video was great and I didnt mind not having the labels. I could direct my full attention to mog's soothing voice :)
It is nice if u add the labels to episode 2 and 3 but that doesnt mean u have to rework episode 1 :D
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I just uploaded the new and improved version of the Hall of Fame Ranking Series, go check it out!
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Saving the best for last? (me)
Checkout the seasons 2 and season 3 stats! :P
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Iirc we only use Stats from season 10 and upwards :D Nice to see you again Camp_and_spank.
In season 3 you had 4-0-0-0 and 100 pts, which was very impressive.
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Saving the best for last? (me)
Checkout the seasons 2 and season 3 stats! :P
Sadly, between season 1 and 9 we went through a lot of website attacks and we lost a lot of the results between those seasons. I only have the complete season 1 results available to me, but I decided not to add them in due to consistency and the results would only benefit three post s10 players: Myself, Nooblex and Alien (and he only played in one game). None of the other players from that seasons are active. Doesn't seem worth it.