FFA Masters League
League => League Discussion => Topic started by: Ugrilainen on January 25, 2012, 01:51:28 pm
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Here is my finalized suggestion for next season. I'd like your opinions.
FML conference mode
- Players are divided in two conferences, West (USA/CANADA) and EAST (Europe).
- 4 rounds.
- 32 or 40 players can be participating.
- No swiss system. Everyone play everyone in the conference.
Round 4 specificity
- Round 1-3 are played within the conference.
- Round 4 is played mixing 2 WEST and 2 EAST from equivalent level and having the same winning need in the last game.
Playoffs
- Rank 1-8 from each conference play in the 1/4 finals.
- 4 winners play in the Grand final.
Improvements
- Faster scheduling since players be in the same or similar time-zones.
- Create some competition for Euro and US/Canada supremacy.
- Best way to promote the 1/4 final mode since there wont be any "season winner".
- The system promotes a "Must-Win" play-mode.
- Round 4 will avoid any suiciding or "play for 3rd" play since players fighting each other will not be competing in the same conference. This should promote aggressive and entertaining games.
- No qualifiers required, unless we get a shit load of applications (which isnt likely).
Notes
- I had this idea following the NBA system...
- This includes the idea of 1/4 final.
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Edit by WorpeX: Removed Extra Idea.
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sounds quite simple and looking good. iŽd like to play it that style.
just not fully understand the following sentence :
Round 4 will avoid any suiciding or "play for 3rd" play since players fighting each other will not competing in the same conference. This should promote aggressive and entertaining games
because 2 + 2 = 2 from same conference and it is always nice to have good and entertaining games but u rarely can forsee this, whatever the concept or players are :).
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For the playoffs you could also have the top player of each conference auto making it, and 2-5 going in the semi, that way you would always have at least 1 of each conference
And about the mixing conference, it won't completely eliminate the suiciding for 3rd, but it will greatly reduce it, since instead of having to rush the first guy you see, you have to suicide someone in particular.
Also, since the game would be between players of equal standing (it will be a lot easier to match 2 player equally than matching 4) we won't have a player that only need 3rd vs player trying to get 1st, meaning the victim could actually just turn it into a solo, since he also doesn't need to get 1st
Sounds solid!
although I don't like the extra ideal :P
(and I sorta like having ppl auto making the finals, but I wouldn't mind that much if it changed)
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Your idea sounds pretty good. I'd like to see this "conference mode" in Season 12 ,since it will be much easier and faster to schedule games.
Maybe you can add a poll to this thread and let the community decide if its top or not,
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I like it. The extra idea is maybe too much... but the rest is interesting. I dont agree with Renaud, better to have 1/4 finals. Its going to be more competitive. For the top spot, the award can be choosing the map for the 1/4 like now.
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I like this idea quite a bit. The only thing I'd worry about is whether or not there are about the same number of people for West and East. I think 16 per a conference is probably best, but that means there might need to be a qualifier for one division or the the other depending on the number of people interested.
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Well if you look at the current fml players, it's pretty well divided
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Everything looks good except for the race idea, especially since we are pretty human/undead heavy, I don't see why we would want to discourage mirror matches? For example, 3 way humans have produced some very enjoyable games.
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Great idea ugri, i like it, i think this will give season 12 the fire it needs. The idea for round 4 sounds nice. The only thing i don't like is the extra idea about race. I think it should be free to play the race you want to.
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Well if you look at the current fml players, it's pretty well divided
Ok cool, I hadn't had time to look at it but that sounds excellent then.
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Yes, I love it. DO IT.
And many times YES for the race idea. No, mirror is NOT fun Darkness.
Most moron orcs do cow wars (stupid boring) in OvO (good orcs play OvO with ZERO or max of 1 taurens).
Most humans are playing it safe + boring with Tanks/Griffs in HvH
Even maga admitted that UvU is dumb/boring with idiotic garg hit and run.
NvN i suppose can be fun with right heroes, but there is what, 1 NE player total?
I'd even go as far as 1 race per game, don't agree = all random. Easy to enforce, more fun/less cheesing, DO IT.
DO IT I SAY.
<3 Ugri
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But 3 hu and 1 elf is great! because they have to counter hu + elf, and i only have to counter hu!
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Everything looks good except for the race idea, especially since we are pretty human/undead heavy, I don't see why we would want to discourage mirror matches? For example, 3 way humans have produced some very enjoyable games.
I agree with this. But if that is implemented, perhaps make all 3 change race instead of one if no one wants to step up.
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But 3 hu and 1 elf is great! because they have to counter hu + elf, and i only have to counter hu!
Lies. You as the elf try to be nice and keep a low profile... and then BAM! tanks in your base and it goes downhill from there =P
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I agree with the idea
it was i who helped you with some arguments : D
3 from one race sucks imo
it makes it rly hard if you are the minority in all cases as it is in everyone's interest to kill the other race they have to constantly try to counter.
obv race wars is not always possible but atleast 2, 1, 1 or 2 2 etc.
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I'm very against the race idea, but I love the conference style play. Perhaps we found our Season 12 format! I'll do some testing on it and see how it plays out.
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Oh come on, you have admit, the number of HU players is getting silly. If we had as many NE instead, it'd be fun because NE games are actually dynamic. Like 90% games this season had 2+ humans.
And when players go random we're bound to get much more diversity in games. Honestly, wouldn't you want to see great players like l77 or yz or q or johny play something other than HU/Orc?
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No, not really. I'd rather people play the race they enjoy playing.
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No, not really. I'd rather people play the race they enjoy playing.
I don't know. If it any other race was so popular I'd agree, but I'm just not seeing any entertainment in mass HU matches. Maybe I'm alone in that. Any more than 1 HU just ruins the game for me :/
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Wow so many feedbacks, I'm happy you guys like it :icon_exclaim:
@ SLythe : as Renaud said, if the two playing in the last round from the same conference do not have any interest of suiciding each other, this will decrease a lot the suicidal cases. It isnt 100% working all the time indeed.
@ Renaud : no direct qualification for the finals is the center of my system so no, bad idea! Bad Renaud bad! If we manage tor each 20 players per conferences, we would have 5/20 in playoffs and 15 masturbating : not good.
@ Pinball : no vote, Worpex always remind us that fml isnt a democraty! :icon_lol:
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Race rule : I wanted it because we saw imo too many mass humans games very boring.
Seems like everyone is against it except ebo (which shouldnt be reassuring for me! lol jk) so fine I'll let it go, this was just an extra idea.
Edit : darker likes it too, cool!
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@ Mage : as Renaud said, both conferences at the moment are very balanced : 16/16.
We will see where we stand when the applications will be made. Nothing impossible to be solved anyway I'm sure.
If one is needed to balance the number of the other conference and is very available to play, we can move him. I would say someone like Beljone who is serbian in the USA, could play in Europe. Just a thought.
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Good ideas, I think this will make the playing field a little more balanced; I wont ahve to play maga or das :D
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So is it going to be 4 or 6 rounds? We do have a shitton of maps...
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4 rounds