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Title: M14 Result
Post by: FML|ResultsBot on November 05, 2016, 04:21:13 pm
M14
:USA: :ra: SteppinRazor
:Russia: :ud: KENT256666
:USA: :ud: FML|WorpeX
:Lativa: :ra: Persuade
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Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on November 05, 2016, 04:38:52 pm
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/Cumulovirgo/rNUos1478378760_zpsjshjpl60.png) (http://s169.photobucket.com/user/Cumulovirgo/media/rNUos1478378760_zpsjshjpl60.png.html)
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on November 05, 2016, 08:08:21 pm
Yeah thats not far from the truth. haha
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on November 05, 2016, 08:10:25 pm
there should be two kinds of pink to choose in wc3. One ought to be magenta and the other light pink.  :icon_evil:
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: Dinamo on November 06, 2016, 01:41:45 am
FML|red7z7, Pinballmap-it was obvious americans preteam, the most important - it was at the beginning of the game, I was fined only for suspicion of preteam, you have to be consecutive, before the law FML all are equal, Kent 2 the place!!!
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on November 06, 2016, 01:56:41 am
LOL! Head Admin pre-teams with Razor to avoid finishing 4th ?:D. If Maga were running the show like he did in Season 22 both Worpex and Razor would get 0 points and a warning :D.

But no, in all seriousness, it was a lack of scouting and an accident of bad luck to hit Kent from both flanks. I think Worpex stopped attacking Kent after the 1st push while Razor stayed around to prevent him from rebuilding. It was just bad luck for Kent really  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: FML|red7z7 on November 06, 2016, 01:10:44 am
Sorry Dinamo but it often happens that a player will get attacked twice early in the game, especially in the early rounds when skill level is lower on average. It is unfortunate. It also happened to Airenikus in m3.

As for previous admin rulings I cannot comment on it since I wasn't around at the time and don't know the details.
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: b100death on November 06, 2016, 03:47:00 am
Why i not surprised mentality USA guys. Arenikus, Kent... Scout not needed ! Purpose and so clear.
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: Wrecktify on November 06, 2016, 08:02:07 am
If anyone was going to get preteamed this game it would have been Persuade,  because all things equal neither step not worpex can beat him on their own . I don't know Kent, but logically he was not the real threat in this lineup 
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: FML|WorpeX on November 06, 2016, 08:14:48 am
I went 100 on KENT to try and rush him out and get some hero levels to be able to compete with Persuade late in the game. He was crying for help so I wanted to do the Renaud double slap. Attack whoever from behind to force a TP and then finish off the victim. Instead, I found an open base and decide to just go for a Tome since I had a much larger army.

That obviously didn't happen as I got attacked by Steppin from behind while fighting KENT. He did what I intended to do. I TPed out and didn't touch KENT again until the closing parts of the game to finish off his buildings.

If anyone thinks this is pre-team, you've clearly not played a lot of FFA. Unintentional teaming happens in FFA a lot. Intentional teaming happens as well. If you can't handle it or don't understand it you shouldn't be in the league.
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: SteppinRazor on November 06, 2016, 08:26:20 am
lol @ even having this conversation.  I hit kent based on his spawn location, made sense since hitting him gives me potentially access to 2 more mines, which did work out in my favor since i was able to mine atleast one of them.  I dont think there needs to be any more discussion on this, hopefully I wont get matched with kent again this season because I assume hes the garbage type of player who would just suicide me from a past game.
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on November 06, 2016, 10:20:53 am
Quote from: SteppinRazor on November 06, 2016, 08:26:20 am
hopefully I wont get matched with kent again this season because I assume hes the garbage type of player who would just suicide me from a past game.

LOL!  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: DV- on November 06, 2016, 10:26:04 am
lold @razzor who got what he pretty much deserved
kent tried to survive after ridicoulus 2v1, no point to blame even if it was suicidal harras
once again - it wasnt since kent tried to put an expo but u and worp kept trying to finish him

wp pers wade nicely done 1v2
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: FML|Renaud on November 06, 2016, 10:40:27 am
Quote from: FML|WorpeX on November 06, 2016, 08:14:48 am
He was crying for help so I wanted to do the Renaud double slap.
:)
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: Dinamo on November 06, 2016, 11:40:01 am
Razor u idiot? you knew that Worpex attacked and all the same went to finish if you killed with Persuade you would occupy 2 mines too... If you get with me in group, you will receive 2 on 1, and I will tell me your mines are necessary!
SteppinRazor You don't respect unspoken rules фмл, 2 against 1 on start! FML|red7z7 if you don't punish it, then there can be a lawlessness, many will want to pump over easily heroes too and to occupy mines!
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: ZsSuperCumulo on November 06, 2016, 11:59:57 am
Quote from: Dinamo on November 06, 2016, 11:40:01 am
Razor u idiot? you knew that Worpex attacked and all the same went to finish if you killed with Persuade you would occupy 2 mines too... If you get with me in group, you will receive 2 on 1, and I will tell me your mines are necessary!
SteppinRazor You don't respect unspoken rules фмл, 2 against 1 on start! FML|red7z7 if you don't punish it, then there can be a lawlessness, many will want to pump over easily heroes too and to occupy mines!

there is no rule that states 2 1v1s must be played in a 4 way; it's not called FREE FOR ALL for nothing. It really wasn't preteam it was just bad luck. It's almost like being at the wrong place at the wrong time  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: SteppinRazor on November 07, 2016, 12:21:11 pm
Dinamo, intentionally playing with the intent to 2v1 as you stated is definitly an offense against the rules, but go ahead if you'd like to throw your season because you don't understand basic FFA gameplay.  It definitely sucked to be Kent this game, but it was just bad luck and once again I hit him based on his spawn in proximity to mine. 
Title: Re: M14 Result
Post by: Tleilaxu on November 07, 2016, 04:04:11 pm
I remember Kent pulling off a nasty creepjack on steppin or something early on, so it made sense that he would get attacked by one undead, and then it also makes sense that Worpex tried to sip some cheap experience from the fighting.
From Kent's POV however I can understand why he is upset. Why are both undeads ganging up on him instead of their buddy Persuade? After all, this (alleged) subconscious buddy play is why admins punished Jaod and Dinamo last-last season (and also why Ena and Sweet should've been punished but for some reason were not).
I don't think it was the case here though, and any way you see it the teamers got punished by losing to Persuade in the end, so there isn't actually a problem here.