FFA Masters League
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMK on December 07, 2011, 02:42:38 pm
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Ok, today i played my last undead ffa game, i have enough of this shit...
i am just sick of losing against orcs with inferior skill, they even have only half the apm i have :icon_mad:
just hexastomp, 2 criticals and dk dead... i tried everything, nothing works,
well from now on, im gonna have fun too, i will switch to human and just TANK THE SHIT OUT OF EVERY ORC I MEET ON LADDER :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
SO I REALLY RECOMMEND NOT TO PLAY ORC OR I JUST SUICIDE YOUR ASS OFF
GOODBYE
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they even have only half the apm i have
Found your problem, you relate apm to skill. I had games years ago with over 1,000 average apm. APM means nothing unless its real apm which is harder to tell. Pretty much unless their apm is below 80 it means nothing.
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Its physically impossible to get 1,000 APM unless you're hacking. Even most pro players don't even get close to half that. I think the only pro with 500+ apm was Rainbow... but he was only really known for his APM and wasn't actually that good compared to the other pros.
Seriously, you could spam all game and i don't even think you'd get close to 1000. Thats just not humanly possible. Let alone breaking it.
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So you go one cheese race because another cheese race annoys you?
Lol.
You don't need to cheese in order to win. Use weakness to team the cheesers. It's that simple. How do people not get that?
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Why be part of the 99% losers, when you can become part of the 1% with 2 clicks?
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Which clicks are those?
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#1 Race
#2 Orc
^^
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That's 4 clicks dude
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Just destro rush any orc you face. IF there are 2 orcs, AltQQ.
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just do as duck did to eshan
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and then pray the other two guys are too stupid to kill you, and then hope that one of them disconnects. =)
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Don't listen to wreck if you destro rush an orc he will eat you alive. Orcs are weak before having casters and burrow upgrade. If theres one orc try to rush him out even if your creeping/tech will suffer. If the position is shitty and you see the orc is raping a player use chat to point it out. Help the dying one so orc cant be fed off. If its a two times 1vs1 and the orc wins his one faster use chat also. There is many things you can against an orc. They arent as strong as they look like at start. Sleep is the best undead skill against orc. Peace out! :icon_cool:
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Its physically impossible to get 1,000 APM unless you're hacking. Even most pro players don't even get close to half that. I think the only pro with 500+ apm was Rainbow... but he was only really known for his APM and wasn't actually that good compared to the other pros.
Seriously, you could spam all game and i don't even think you'd get close to 1000. Thats just not humanly possible. Let alone breaking it.
hotkey 1234567890 at the start and strum your keyboard over and over, I've seen 5000 max min apm and personally have had I think like 2,400, obviously this is pointless in a real game.
and then pray the other two guys are too stupid to kill you, and then hope that one of them disconnects. =)
Neither of them could kill me as I had one kill away from a lvl3 dk and 5 fiends. Combine that with the fact my early game micro is one of my stronger suits, It would be hard for anybody to attack me as I committed to a rush early on where I lost not a single unit, so they would be wasting their time. Not to mention if one of them were able to kill me, the 4th player is mass expanding, teching, and creeping giving them an auto win. Looking at the replay I prob could bought another skull and did the same tower rush to rain as he had -3 grunts from creeping, and I don't think johnny had any plans to run across the map.
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Looking at the replay I prob could bought another skull and did the same tower rush to rain as he had -3 grunts from creeping, and I don't think johnny had any plans to run across the map.
This.
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Take out two good orcs in a row i doubt it but i am willing to see it!
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Just destro rush any orc you face. IF there are 2 orcs, AltQQ.
I have done this actually,
i did a no-altar tech, i build altar, grave etc. during tech,
then i made slaughters, statues, chainmorphed and pushed him,
no way he can have the fortified upgrade at that time...
and yes, i finished him, but that didn't change the fact that i lost to another ud next to me who pushed my base with 100 food gargs immediately after...
so yes, you can finish 1 orc this way but the chance that you will get the win is really low then
apart from that, the matchup is theoretically imbalanced:
destros/wyrms? -> (buffed) wyvern rape them
gargs? -> bats rape them
fiends/abos? -> completely useless against stomp (dont even need tauren)
necrowagon? -> walkers are WAY too imba, they have too high hp and mana pool and hard to kill, even silence does not last long enough on walkers, they have some kind of resistancy against spells like this... they should be like priests imho,
and i didn't even talk about the imba bm ultimate wich rape all your necros in 2 seconds (or if they have a dr than necros are even more useless)
hit and run? -> impossible against orbs of lightning, and if the orc is good everything is linked anyway so you wont be able to nuke something
heros? -> die in seconds against a bm and hexastomp shit
actually i have a suggestion wich could solve this matchup: the problem is, wyvern have their strenght thanks to their buffs (spirit link, bloodlust, healing wards etc), so you need dispell... but undeads only dispell is destros wich get raped against pure wyvern/bats, so it would be nice if destros could re-morph into statues and statues have the ability to dispell too, so you dont need to fly into his air to dispell something
so far the only thing that works for me is something like dk dr pl + casters (curse/cripple/howl/silence everything) because that means they have to dispell their own bloodlust to get rid of everything,
but even then you need a herolevel advantage, invul pots, death pact, you have to cast 20 spells in 2 seconds and you have to kill the walkers fast because silence doesn't last long on walkers... and you have to make sure their heros are silenced in time (especially the bm or you get bladestormed) so its still a hard task to do,
and if they have a dr on their own -> cry whole game about orc being imba and hope the others will help you -_-
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orc vs UD is known to be imbalanced, but in my opinion thats the only matchup in FFA thats truly imbalanced
on even gold and heroes, any other 1 v 1 matchup is usually decided by skill. only orc vs UD, lowered skill players orc actually beat higher skill UD players most of the time.
the next closest, imo, is human vs elf. thats a pretty hard matchup for elf if the human knows what hes doing
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Its physically impossible to get 1,000 APM unless you're hacking. Even most pro players don't even get close to half that. I think the only pro with 500+ apm was Rainbow... but he was only really known for his APM and wasn't actually that good compared to the other pros.
Seriously, you could spam all game and i don't even think you'd get close to 1000. Thats just not humanly possible. Let alone breaking it.
what was that Orc's name - something with Socker locker sokker... something in that direction, he had 600 apm when he started out playing competetively and then he dropped down to ~400-500ish after a while
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the next closest, imo, is human vs elf. thats a pretty hard matchup for elf if the human knows what hes doing
why?
if i play elf, i have no problems with humans actually,
without tavern in the map it would be hard, but if you take heros like pitlord/panda/alchemist or dh/panda/pitlord or dr/panda/pitlord, it can be really hard for the human cause rof+bof rapes tanks...
btw, without tavern, you can go dh/kotg/potm and go his main and cast starfall/tranquility with ams pots, but of course you need level6+ for that
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Elf can be a tough matchup for human. But not too many play elf anymore.