FFA Masters League
General => News => Topic started by: FML|WorpeX on November 10, 2013, 08:57:58 pm
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:FMLN:
To start off the new week, we have a bit of drama! During P54 we had an issue with :Germany: Lightweight. Instead of playing for to win the game, he opted to all-out suicide another player in the league - :USA: Seksi. This was not an accidental suicide - it was 100% intentional and Lightweight had plans on doing it from the very start of the match. Here is a post from Lightweight from FFAReplays.com:
Name: Lightweight
To make it clear and to prevent missunderstandings, i planned suiciding seksi from the very start. I didnt want to fight svedirko at any point because it would have just delayed making seksi lose. I love making seksi lose and it felt really good. GG. This was an A1 suicide.
This sort of behavior is completely uncalled for and completely destroys the foundation of the game. The FFA Masters League is a competition which revolves around playing your hardest to achieve victory. His actions clearly demonstrate that he had no intentions of winning or trying to achieve victory. His goal was to grief another player and to disrupt the league. This behavior falls under the unsportsmanlike conduct rule:
6.50 Unsportsmanlike Conduct
In order to secure a well regulated and pleasant course of game, it is inevitable that all players act in a sportsmanlike and fair way. This may include, but is not limited to: Spamming during a game, kicking players from the server or match, not playing for the win or faking an account without revealing yourself. Breach of this rule can include penalty points or removal from the league.
As this is not Lightweights first offense in the league, we have decided to call for an extended ban on playing in the FFA Masters League. He will not be allowed to play in the remainder of Season 17 or for Season 18. Any official FML sponsored events during this time will also enact this barring.
There will be no official replacement player for him in Season 17 as it will not be possible for anyone else in the standings to make it to the semi-finals regardless of the result. Lightweights spot will be filled by a sub in round 6.
Sorry for the disappointing news! Hope the remainder of this week is filled with great FFA action!!
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ouch
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LW: It was not fair to Sexy and guys, who bet on you (like me).
But still too much Unsportsmanlike Conduct from other players too.
And i will stream this replay today at 18 or 19 CET.
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this league hates germans!
finally lw can focus on dota2
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any response in regards to me... am I knocked out of the season now because of this suicide or, for example, do I get an opportunity to sub another game for points?
The way the game was turning out I had steppin dead and Svedirko was killing LW, if LW had defended against Svedirko my chances were very good for this win, just pointing this out.
Thanks
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See this as my goodbye post on fml;
The decision from Worpex and the admin team to ban me is 100 % right. Countless times i behaved unmannered and out of line. I forced my ban by suiciding seksi. Leaving in peace is not in my nature and i had to leave with a news on me. I love the attention and drama, thats why i always tried to behave like a crazy sick horse.
Sorry for those who put any hopes into me getting sane. I am who i am and i wont change. Seksi was just the right victim at the right time. Majority of people wont miss me, so there is no reason to be sad about it. It was going to happen anyway later or earlier.
@Seksi: I didnt care about svedirko, i just had to defend him until i had an army big enough to suicide you. I never planned fighting him or playing a normal game. You missunderstand.
FML was like a trip for me. I went through everything. Thx for that. Bye.
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Seksi sure has a knack for making friends xD
Lightweight you are wrong on not being missed. I am fond of your laid back attitude, humor, and game skills enough to make you one of the best ffa players there is.
Is irritating seksi, though, that big of an accomplishment? You spent years playing together with a small community, having fun with an old game, and you decide to lift the finger on everyone due to a grudge?
cmon, it's not like we like every single player on bnet or wc3. It's full of questionable characters to say the least, people that never had sex and what have you. You can't like everyone in a community but you can respect the whole of it.
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LW you will be missed. At least dont stop obsing because I love your comments :D
Btw, admins, any regards to LW's suicide in my last final game? Have I lost the game or could I play it again? Maybe I can sub in another final for more titles?
The way the game was turning out I had DFM dead and Svedirko was killing LW, if LW had not suicided his heroes against mine, my chances were very good for this win, just pointing this out.
Thanks
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@seksi: No. But 85 points *might* be enough to make the semi, hard to tell atm
@l3f: It's "knack", not "nag" (nag is annoying someone to do something)
@maga: I see what you did there. No.
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Nice try maga. haha
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Maga knows how to play his cards :icon_mrgreen:
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Pinball is doing a poor jobs defending germans in this league
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I sense a LW apology thread in the next week or so.
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so lw contact me for this new league, is your site up? maybe we can use mine! :icon_idea:
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100 - 1 = 99
99 - 1 = 98
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4 - 1 = 3
Plz, remember it
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@imbalance_hero: what?
@ugri: could you please refrain from the racist comments :/
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wc3 ffa not so big community, ban one good player = lost one good man.
1 month you almost lost 2 people, if you will ban more and more, then in SEASON 20 can play only 2-3 players... i said that.
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wc3 ffa not so big community, ban one good player = lost one good man.
1 month you almost lost 2 people, if you will ban more and more, then in SEASON 20 can play only 2-3 players... i said that.
And what do you propose?
We let people cheat, hack, suicide, and ruin games just so we can have enough people? Hopefully people will start using common sense when it comes to stupid shit like this.
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Humanstar banned, Lightweight banned, A-r-m-a left league because of admins Imbalance hero = saying truth. 3 leave in 2 weeks.
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Y u trolling LW??
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wc3 ffa not so big community, ban one good player = lost one good man.
1 month you almost lost 2 people, if you will ban more and more, then in SEASON 20 can play only 2-3 players... i said that.
These aren't permanent bans. Humi can play again next season and its not like this is the first time he was banned from FML. LW can play again in Season 19. Arma didn't leave because of the admins, he left because he didn't have a legitimate copy of WC3 (and FML only loosely supports Garena).
We are not even close to being at risk of running out of players to run a season. If that does happen, we will simply close the league. The league isn't here to get walked all over. This is an organized competition. If fair play can not be established, the league has no purpose and should no longer exist.
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thx renaud, my inglis is gettin worser and worser
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he left because he didn't have a legitimate copy of WC3 (and FML only loosely supports Garena).
Sad! Couldn't he connect to the both through GGC though? ?_?
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he left because he didn't have a legitimate copy of WC3 (and FML only loosely supports Garena).
Sad! Couldn't he connect to the both through GGC though? ?_?
Now he could. Bot wasn't working for awhile with Garena, but I think Ugri fixed it. Either way, he wasn't able to compete in FFA. He couldn't break the solo mindset and put no effort into trying.
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Last hacker I met on bnet, when told that I'll report him (which I did), said "wc3 keys cost $5, go report, I get others". I don't know where they do cost $5, but you can use the response if anyone's still missing them !
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Last hacker I met on bnet, when told that I'll report him (which I did), said "wc3 keys cost $5, go report, I get others". I don't know where they do cost $5, but you can use the response if anyone's still missing them !
Sadly, I can't tell people where to get illegitimate keys! I personally don't care how anyone acquires a WC3 key, there are plenty of FREE options to getting keys as well. However, I can only legally tell people to buy WC3 legitimately. Simply because, if Blizzard really wanted to, they could send their legal team after the league and force us to shut down. Granted, the likelihood that this would happen is incredibly small - especially considering that they dont even support WC3 anymore - I still have no interest in getting involved in such a mess! lol
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Most stores like Gamestop, EB Games, etc still have a few copies of the WC3 battlechest for around $10. Not sure for outside of the US, but this is a very easy option to get them. You can also purchase them online, though it costs more. I'm not sure where to physically buy them outside of the united states.
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actually you can buy the cd key from a keyshop, you don't get the cds or the little guide, but who cares about those? Instant delivery ftw~
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Maybe LW may say "sorry" to Seksi, and he may to say "you good player, Seksi, sorry for my bad-manner more".
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Maybe LW may say "sorry" to Seksi, and he may to say "you good player, Seksi, sorry for my bad-manner more".
The whole point of him suiciding was because he doesn't like seksi.
He will not apologize, he knew he would be banned prior to doing it
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i remember once I was all set to play a game on Deathrose and at the last second he swapped me with an obs slot. That was annoying..
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Why are there so many bitch players in this community? Can't handle another good player challenging you? @maga obviously I asked about subbing because persuade had mentioned it as a possibility and LW was banned for this game, he did nothing wrong in your final.
Its disappointing when there is hardly any love or respect shown at all in this community for a person who has put time and effort into it to provide a good challenge in the league. Lw, maga, duck? who else?
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Its disappointing when there is hardly any love or respect shown at all in this community for a person who has put time and effort into it to provide a real challenge as a strong player. Lw, maga, duck? who else?
The admins understand the bolded part only too well!!
Maga was merely joking though, no need to take his comment so seriously.
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Its disappointing when there is hardly any love or respect shown at all in this community for a person who has put time and effort into it to provide a real challenge as a strong player. Lw, maga, duck? who else?
The admins understand the bolded part only too well!!
Maga was merely joking though, no need to take his comment so seriously.
Solidarity!!
(http://media.tumblr.com/e4a0421cce3910dfee6c2be9905c0669/tumblr_inline_ml9h9t2KzJ1qz4rgp.gif)
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Just wondering, imagine LW saved a paysant and finished that town hall. He would have continue playing, eventually teaming with one against another etc. Suiciding one player he consider worth suiciding because having him in the game considerably threaten his chance.
Since you have a quote "To make it clear and to prevent missunderstandings (...)" the question does not really apply here (or does it, maybe that was just another provocation?), but focussing, even cross map to someone you really fear is still playing for the win imho.
BTW I plan on tower rushing Persuade on P52, because with him being out, I am confident I could handle the 3 way.
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seksi nobody respects you not because you suck, but because you suck and you act like you are skilled, and that people should recognize this nonexistent skill.
"cant handle another good player challenging you", you type like a tool is why people make fun of you. Any true "good" player would just say cant handle another player. Kids these days really need to stop dropping out of school.
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seksi nobody respects you not because you suck, but because you suck and you act like you are skilled, and that people should recognize this nonexistent skill.
"cant handle another good player challenging you", you type like a tool is why people make fun of you. Any true "good" player would just say cant handle another player. Kids these days really need to stop dropping out of school.
Lol, you're just as guilty of this as Seksi is. You do the same goddam thing. You're the excuse king for losing a match and you constantly boast that you're one of - if not the - best US player right now. You literally have no ground to call Seksi out on this.
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Just wondering, imagine LW saved a paysant and finished that town hall. He would have continue playing, eventually teaming with one against another etc. Suiciding one player he consider worth suiciding because having him in the game considerably threaten his chance.
We usually use our judgements for these things. Focusing someone who is crossmap would be ok, if you defend your main when someone is destroying it (once again, judgement call if you wait a bit before tping because you think you have a chance of finishing the base race which would make it better for you in the end.)
In this case, this was a real old school suicide, killing yourself in order to make someone else lose
For example, we have a lot of "feeding" players that were not penalize, because they did so in order to win to the game
In one game, Snamuh said "Here louis I'm sending you my units to feed" while he was being rushed. Because of that, the player killing him stopped hitting his main, and started chasing the units. This would have been feeding, but Snamuh who had saved a peon was only doing this in order to buy time in order to rebuild (his peon was immediately killed and he left, but still!!!)
In one game, I was feeding Lost some gryphons for him to charm, this would have been feeding, but I did that while I was rebuilding in a corner, and because I needed to free food in order to rebuild heroes, and by doing that instead of killing them myself, I made him slow down his killing me, and at the same time made him the strongest so I wasn't targeted by the other (in this case the fact that I won also really helped :P)
Now a player who is dying, sends his remaining units to someone else, then Alt+QQ, he's pretty much screwed, especially if he does it multiple times (I remember a player taverning his heroes and feeding them five times while his main was being destroyed (I think it's after that game we added the rule)
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@Lightweight (speaking as just a fan since you probably don't know who I am) I hope Steppin is right and you change how you feel about your decisions, since you are arguably the best active player not to have yet won a championship, and the most capable. This is a long ban but I hope you will come to appreciate it as a sort of compliment also; actions like this from a player such as yourself are a betrayal to the league and those who work to see FFA and you flourish. I am sure you will be missed by many for the reasons already given. No one cares if you are "sane" or not, but your actions were beyond that. Hope to see you back soon.
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Just wondering, imagine LW saved a paysant and finished that town hall. He would have continue playing, eventually teaming with one against another etc. Suiciding one player he consider worth suiciding because having him in the game considerably threaten his chance.
Since you have a quote "To make it clear and to prevent missunderstandings (...)" the question does not really apply here (or does it, maybe that was just another provocation?), but focussing, even cross map to someone you really fear is still playing for the win imho.
BTW I plan on tower rushing Persuade on P52, because with him being out, I am confident I could handle the 3 way.
I had to smile a bit when you mention that i might be afraid of seksi as a reason for my actions. I suicided him because i wanted to make him lose, because i dont like him due to his arrogance he recently showed. Someone had to bring him back on the ground.
@reflekkt: I often made mistakes while playing in this league which is apoligized for, because i realized i did something wrong. But in this case i cant apoligize for it, because it felt right to me even if i disrespected admins and all players in the league with my behaviour. I dont know what is going to happen in the future, but first i have to face the consequences before thinking about later. Admins gave me a last chance which i spit on and i think it would be the wrong sign to talk about a reunion now.
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who cares about being loved by lw or rsm...
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pretty sure the answer is yes because of something that happened a few seasons ago, but
would lw still be banned for this if him suiciding seksi gave lw 10th place and seksi 11th(assuming last week before semis)
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pretty sure the answer is yes because of something that happened a few seasons ago, but
would lw still be banned for this if him suiciding seksi gave lw 10th place and seksi 11th(assuming last week before semis)
Good question. I'm not sure how we would handle that as its never really came up before. In 90% of these situations, that wouldn't really work considering the person who wins the game would steal 10th place. Especially considering games are matched by score, most of them are already at the same amount of points. Its still mathematically possible for that situation to happen but I think if you've already factored yourself out of winning the game and are purposely playing to make a specific person lose, it would still be an intentional suicide.
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I' ll lock that thread - everything seems to be said. If you want it to be reopened , pm me.